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"It’s fairly obvious from reading Pirsig’s texts that SOM is perceived by him as an example of ignorant thinking. Briefly, this is due to such systems ignoring the reality of Dynamic Quality. Why this is particularly ignorant is explained by the ‘Three Aspects’ of the Cittamatra school of Mahayana Buddhism. Williams (1988, p.83) states that the First Aspect refers to the falsifying activity of language which implies independent and permanent existence to things. As Hagen 202 (1997, p.30) notes, one of the most fundamental truths noted by the Buddha is that all aspects of our experience are in constant flux and change. According to the Buddha, when a person ignores this truth they subject themselves to " 202 Pirsig (1998b) notes that Hagen‘s text Buddhism: Plain & Simple ‘…shows the similarities, between the MOQ and Zen Buddhism more clearly than any other I have seen.’ " Marsha On May 19, 2012, at 2:49 AM, Dan Glover <daneglo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Ian Glendinning > <ian.glendinn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Dan, >> >> Pirsig reacting to a "definition" of value as vague, says as you quote >> "there is nothing vague about value / value-judgement" >> >> Doesn't change the fact that by definition it's vague, even though by >> experience it's not. >> >> ie is this not a point about definitions, rather than about value ? > > Dan: > > My point to Marsha had more to do with her rather unwieldy definition > of interplay: an ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent, > impermanent and conceptualized processing in the infinite field of > Dynamic Quality. That is not the definition I find in the > dictionary... interplay is the effect two or more things have on one > another. Now... isn't that simple? > > I mean, WTF do you do with that definition that Marsha offered? > > Poor Marsha, Dan thought. And then she wonders is the discussion > closed? What discussion? What am I supposed to discuss about that kind > of definition? > > Dan > > > http://www.danglover.com > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
