Ian Glendinning stated May 19th:

Ant "asked" ...

>
> Is this the "Hard Question" of David Charmless (I think that's the guy's 
> name) you're referring to?
>

"Certainly Chalmers in his Tucson Science of Consciousness activities 
popularised the split. He charmed a lot of people."


Ant McWatt comments:

Ian,

As you might have guessed Dr Chalmers didn't charm me (well, at least his work 
didn't - neat hairstyle though!).  When I read  "Explaining Consciousness – The 
Hard Problem" for my PhD, it became quickly evident that I had here yet another 
contemporary philosopher who hadn't read Northrop though he was a little better 
(or at least luckier) than Dennett who hasn't read Northrop either but 
conflates his concepts by intuition with concepts by postulation at critical 
points (presuming his famous text  "Consciousness 'Obscured'" is typical of his 
work).

Because, what do we get kids, when we conflate our concepts by intuition with 
concepts by postulation?  

"If one treats the concepts of Western philosophy, which almost invariably are 
concepts by postulation, as if they were empirically given concepts by 
intuition, vague rubbish is precisely and inevitably what one will get."  
(Northrop, 1947, p.67)

I might seem a bit harsh here (the "Hard Opinion of Dr McWatt") but if you 
don't get the fundamentals right in the first place, your conclusions will 
end-up being off beam.  The trouble is, it's not always apparent with such 
philosophers in how they are using certain terminology whether they're talking 
about concepts by intuition or concepts by postulation.  It all needs careful 
unpicking and translating.

Though I found Chalmers was better than Dennett (the "Claire Rayner* of 
contemporary philosophy") regarding the conflation of concepts by intuition and 
postulation, he's still has some "weird" views about evolution and 
consciousness.  (I think his assertion in "Explaining (away) Consciousness" 
that evolutionary criteria in the development of consciousness should be 
dismissed is the fundamental error in his work).  For instance, he advances the 
argument that if a physical replica of himself appeared a million years ago, it 
‘would have been just as conscious’ as his present day self.  Well, at least 
Chalmers' vacuous example here gave rise to a comment by Pirsig which always 
make me laugh every time I read it.  Namely (quoting from my PhD):

"How does [Chalmers] know this?  There is no way a physical replica of him 
could appear a million years ago.  This is an hypothesis contrary to fact; like 
saying that if pigs could fly they could probably go to 10,000 feet in 
altitude." (Pirsig, 2002e) 

It's these pigs of Chalmers with their long, flowing locks (a la Miss Piggy) 
being blown about by the airstream at 10,000 feet that gets me...

Anyway, on a more positive note, I think the MOQ would say that the connection 
between ‘an experienced inner life’ and matter IS
essentially an evolutionary one.  Biological value patterns control inorganic 
value patterns through key chemical reactions that are the subject of 
biochemistry. In turn, social patterns control biological ones through such 
institutions as the police and the military while, intellectual patterns 
control social ones through government, law and the democratic process.  As 
Pirsig (1991, p.159) notes, the connection only becomes a mystery when the two 
middle levels of biology and society are overlooked:

"The mind-matter paradoxes seem to exist because the connecting links between 
these two levels of value patterns have been disregarded.  Two terms are 
missing: biology and society. Mental patterns do not originate out of inorganic 
nature.  They originate out of society, which originates out of biology which 
originates out of inorganic nature.  And, as anthropologists know so well, what 
a mind thinks is as dominated by social patterns as social patterns are 
dominated by biological patterns and as biological patterns are dominated by 
inorganic patterns."

Moreover, it is important to keep in mind that in "Explaining Consciousness" 
Chalmers is conflating the ‘connecting principles’ for why consciousness 
developed (from physical matter) with the ‘connecting principles’ of how 
consciousness and physical matter operate between each other. Yet, in this 
text, he is addressing the second question when his ‘hard question’ actually 
relates to the first!!!

Consequently, Chalmers confuses the metaphysical obstacles of the connecting 
principles between mind and matter with the scientific explanation of their 
relationship.  Critically, the scientific explanations of consciousness (as 
with theories concerning phenomena such as electricity or light) are concepts 
by postulation and, as such, open to continual revision.  In consequence, it 
would be implausible to assume that definitive answers to such phenomena will 
ever be achieved; only the discovery of better (though still) provisional 
theories about such phenomena is the best we can hope for.  

Best wishes,

Ant


(* - Claire Rayner was a rather patronising, if well meaning, agony aunt made 
famous by UK TV during the 1980s.) 


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