On 7/22/12 3:38 AM, "Jan Anders Andersson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ³I am not so sure about that. In school shootings the victims use biological > strategies. They run like stupid chickens and every individual becomes an easy > target. If they instead stick together and act socially they can overrun the > villain in seconds. Some will be shot but the more will survive and the loony > is definitely the loser. I¹d rather die for and together with my friends than > alone and abandoned in a hole. > excerpt from Money and the Art of Losing Control, ch 12 Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.-George Santanyana I don't know if Pirsig's work just naturally attracts fools or the application of his work just naturally leads to foolish conclusions. To suggest that the results would have been "better" if all the unarmed people ranging from six to thirty one in that darkened theatre had charged a determined heavily armed crazy borders on criminality. It is unconscionable. And I suggest that if you ever actually faced a situation like that, regardless of your "understanding" of the MoQ or any other philosophy, you're just as likely to be the one trampling the babies to get out as anyone else. Never mind that law enforcement specialists and others with experience in these kind of events all say what you should do is evade, avoid, or escape. The past shows us that even in armed conflicts when one side has guns and the other has spears, the sheer number and determination of the spear-holders rarely make the difference in the end. Read a little about the Native Americans, the Boer War in Africa or even WW1, to help you remember. > > Yesterday my wife said at breakfast regarding the right to wear arms: "If > people's got the right to wear arms then they should have the right to a free > and private shrink also." Shouldn't she have said, "be compelled to attend sessions with a free and private shrink?" Remember Pirsig had to be involuntarily committed after his gun waving incident. I wonder if Pirsig, watching the morning news yesterday thought, " There but for the grace of no God, go I." The personal profiles are eerily similar. Young, late twenties early thirties, men, highly intelligent, social awkward, loners with a history of episodes of depression and mania who have a sense of failure in spite of their successes, about who friends says, "Kind of quiet, but a nice guy, I just can't believe....etc, etc......." And then the big one. The lightly concealed claim in both books and his comments since, "I'm not really crazy. I'm enlightened. Anyway it's my screwed up society. They just don't understand and appreciate me." Phew, glad I got that off my chest. Dave Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
