Hi Mark, Gee, I've been thinking of considering 'hypothetical' an analogy, an analogy all the way down: not this, not that! BUT maybe this is to hold a Dynamic position and a static position at the same time - to be i-n-s-a-n-e. OR maybe Paul Turner will offer a better explanation through his two-thesis position. I like my two-ways of looking at static (patterned) value, but I am very open to 'considering' what PT has to offer.
Cheerfully yours, Marsha On Aug 22, 2012, at 10:06 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marsha, > I fully understand. As a scientist I also treat everything as hypothetical. > That is the scientific method. I interpret what I envision in the most > useful manner knowing that interpretations always change. > > My suggestion was to hold your hypothetical as hypothetical. You will not > always consider your view as hypothetical. It is the most useful to you > right now. This too shall pass. > > Enjoy your hypothetical, it will get you beyond it. There is nothing I can > tell you, you need to create it on your own. Just treat what I write as > hypothetical, if that works for you. > > Cheers, > > > Mark > > On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:51 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Mark, >> >> I am not insisting, nor even suggesting, that you, or David, adopt my >> position, but I find holding patterns as hypothetical is conducive to an >> open, inquiring mind. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:54 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha, >>> I am glad you find freedom in uncertainty. "Holding patterns as >>> hypothetical" AS hypothetical, suggests that you can move away from >>> that form of understanding. The way to move away would be to NOT hold >>> patterns as hypothetical. However, there is an alternative as >>> presented in my second paragraph. At the root of your statement is >>> the indication that a degree of uncertainty is necessary to progress. >>> However, even uncertainty would become hypothetical bringing in the >>> possibility of certainty. While this idea may seem like a paradox >>> (which it is), it can be very revealing upon contemplation. >>> >>> By questioning the very basis of your knowledge, you imply that there >>> is the "non-hypothetical". This would follow since "the hypothetical" >>> suggests that there is the "non-hypothetical" (in order for the terms >>> "hypothetical" to mean something). Where you then find yourself is >>> interesting and can become a basis for an appreciation of existence. >>> By your technique, one can turn away from the idea of coming in >>> contact with such "non-hypothetical", and turn instead to the >>> "creative notion" of existence. This would entail surmising that >>> there is no "non-hypothetical" and instead the appreciation of >>> existence as creative. When we create a painting, it replaces the >>> "nothing" that was once there. The same can be said for each moment >>> of existence. Quality "seeps through" in every instant resulting in >>> an entirely "new thing" at each moment. >>> >>> Pondering on existence in this fashion can also bring about great >>> freedom. It also places a degree of personal responsibility on what >>> one creates at every moment. Since most of one's existence is without >>> forethought, one then can "realize" that one is"tapping into" a much >>> deeper region of one's ability. This region can be denoted as DQ. >>> That we "realize things does not mean that we come in contact with >>> something that we have found, but that we have created it. This would >>> bring in the idealist notion of "the world as idea". >>> >>> Hope this makes sense, but probably not. At least I tried. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Mark >>> >>>>> >>>>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
