Hi Jan-Anders,

I was put off by your use of the word 'make':  I make, you make, he/she makes, 
we make, you make, they make.  I make paintings, but that was not what I wanted 
to address.  This morning I remembered a quote that Mary often used as a 
closing statement in her posts; it which seemed infinitely better:   

- The most important thing you will ever make is a realization.  


Marsha 




On Oct 12, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote:

> Hi Marsha
> 
> Looking forward to see what you can make out of that fundamental nature.
> 
> J A
> 
> 
> 12 okt 2012 kl. 09.50 skrev MarshaV:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Jan-Anders,
>> 
>> Thank you for the thoughtful response.   I suppose both my responses might 
>> lean more towards the nature of reality:  the MoQ as Reality = 
>> Quality(Dynamic/static).  I appreciate the four levels, but not nearly as 
>> much as the basic simplicity of Value as the fundamental nature of the world.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 4:26 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Marsha and all
>>> 
>>> (Anyone know where all these mystic headers come from? Spymail?)
>>> 
>>> 1. According to the subtitle of Lila, I think RMP's main objective was 
>>> about a lack of moral in general. You all(?) remember how it started at the 
>>> MSU in Bozeman with the quality concept in ZAMM.
>>> 
>>> 2. I am personally disturbed by the lack of moral of today, especially when 
>>> people of business, political and religious power choose money before 
>>> humanity. I can understand why, because they believe more in measurable 
>>> numbers than the quality of human life, which they try to manage by keeping 
>>> this quality for themselves and keeping other frustrated by economic and 
>>> other kinds of stress. That's retarded and frigid behaviour, it's also 
>>> unfair. Economics should be a means for humanity, not the other way.
>>> 
>>> Studying and learning the MOQ and drawing my own conclusions  from that is 
>>> my way to solve this problem. That is why I wrote "Money and the Art of 
>>> Losing Control", MALC. 
>>> 
>>> The MOQ constructs a moral hierarchy based on cosmological evolution. This 
>>> cosmological order recognises four distinct levels: the inorganic, the 
>>> biological, the social and the intellectual. The inorganic level is the 
>>> oldest level and includes the physical and geological processes that 
>>> created our planet and solar system. The biological level then began where 
>>> plants and animals developed on Earth that used inorganic matter for their 
>>> own purposes. As animals evolved, a social level then appeared using the 
>>> inorganic and biological levels. While reading ’Money and the Art of Losing 
>>> Control’ keep in mind that money is an example of a social level pattern! 
>>> The fourth and last level to appear in cosmological history is the 
>>> intellectual level which consists of concepts and rules and other 
>>> intellectual stuff that couldn't appear without a sentient being thinking 
>>> of it.
>>> 
>>> I had to write MALC to find out how the four levels of MOQ can be defined 
>>> and used practically. I found that the lowest common denominator of these 
>>> levels is time. Saved time. Time is NOT money. Instead – money (and static 
>>> patterns) comes from SAVED time.
>>> 
>>> Tremendous efforts are expended every day, globally, on making money, i.e. 
>>> saving time for the customer. Much more effort than is spent on the thing 
>>> that the saved time is intended to be used for. One can meditate for a long 
>>> period on where this saved time originates from. To engage in that kind of 
>>> meditation takes a lot of saved time. Saved time that is kept locked up and 
>>> not used is worse than time wasted on things that don't directly give 
>>> something back, like art, music, sleeping and dreaming – things that make 
>>> life worth living.
>>> 
>>> Saved time is also the ultimate basis for cosmological evolution, as the 
>>> best way to arrange energy and particles in a vibrating string, atoms and 
>>> molecules. As the best strategy for survival in competition with other 
>>> species. As the best way to organize society and as the best way to explain 
>>> what it's all about.
>>> 
>>> Any event in our everyday life depends on the four levels of the MOQ and 
>>> the differences between them. It was very amusing to find out what kind of 
>>> trouble an uneven couple can get into regarding that.
>>> 
>>> Deterioration through age (which again is a matter of time) is the reason 
>>> why events and individuals don't continue forever. Therefore every species 
>>> has some kind of reproductive system so that commonly developed strategies 
>>> can be handed down to fresh new copies of the group. 
>>> 
>>> Among humans, this is called sexual activity. In some retarded social 
>>> areas, however, erotica and sexuality are banned from being discussed 
>>> openly by those that are afraid of losing control, those who try to control 
>>> society for their own benefit. These people do their best to keep you away 
>>> from reality. They make you scared of it and they do what they can to turn 
>>> you on with just about anything other than love, reason and your own 
>>> desire. Don't let them rape your mind.
>>> 
>>> For a philosophy to prevail, it has to admit THE WHOLE humanity to a 
>>> complete life. Toads and all.
>>> 
>>> Hope you like the book.
>>> 
>>> Don't forget to register to vote.
>>> 
>>> Jan Anders
>>> 
>>> 11 okt 2012 kl. 09.12 skrev MarshaV:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, of course:  1.)  What problem was RMP trying to solve?   2.)  What 
>>>> problem are you trying to solve?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha


 
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