Mark, You seem to have your homunculus in a bunch; I am not interested in the ravings of such a creature.
Marsha On Oct 15, 2012, at 2:58 AM, 118 wrote: > Hi Marsha, > Why should I consider that? > > I am waiting for answers to you two questions. Or were they just presented > so you could bitch at somebody. Do you have anything original going on in > that pretty little head of yours. I am convinced that you do not understand > the quotes you paste since you have never given me reason to do so. > > But who knows. Could you explain those quotes to me in your own words? > > Didn't think so. > > Besides, that is not what Buddhists see. You are being misled. Or perhaps I > am wrong again. What Buddhist do you know who see things that way? I know > plenty of Buddhist who don't. They are pretty straight forward. I attend > their temples, and celebrations. > > Hagen is stuck in some glorified intellectual nonsense. If what they see is > illusory, they are trying to escape into some kind of la la land, because > they are suffering from the delusion that they are suffering. You buy into > this whole suffering nonsense. They are only suffering if they think they > are suffering, just like you must feel you are suffering and therefore lash > out on contributors to this forum. You suffering is an illusion, remember. > > Why would Hagen write a book if his words were illusory? Maybe you should > ask that pompous wannabe. His world may be illusory because he is so > confused. Here he is, writing a book for one of his illusions. Must be > lonely in that ivory tower. He has nothing to teach his illusion since it is > a projection of his mind. How nihilistic, writing a book for no reason. > Writing that it is illusion, but living as if it were real. He has tied > himself up in knots. Something is very wrong with that kind of person. > > Stop reading and do some thinking for a change. You will find it refreshing > to be in the real world. > > Mark > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Mark, >> >> Here's something for you to consider: >> >> >> "When buddhas look at the world, they don't _see_ solidity. They don't >> _see_ selves_. They see only flux. >> >> "This is not to say that the awakened no longer see forms like the rest of >> us. They do. But they _see_ forms --- or, rather, "formness" --- as >> illusory. They _see_ that all things arise together. They _see_ that the >> apparent existence of anything is dependent on all that it is not. And they >> _see_ this dependence as nothing other than change and motion themselves. >> >> "The Buddha called this phenomena dependent arising. Dependent arising is >> the formula, "When this arises, that becomes." When the days lengthen, >> spring flowers bloom. When days shorten, autumn colors appear and leaves >> fall from the trees. Spring flowers are inseparable from lengthening days; >> autumn colors are inseparable from days of less and less light. Indeed, >> spring flowers _are_ the longer days; fall colors _are_ the shorter days. >> In Reality, all phenomena work together as a seamless whole. >> >> "Dependent arising is not vague, mystical, remote, intellectual stuff. The >> buddha-dharma is very practical and down-to-earth. Just pay very close >> attention to your actual experience, and you'll _see_ it for yourself." >> >> >> (Hagen, Steve, ‘Buddhism: Plain and Simple’, p.146) >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 14, 2012, at 11:15 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Mark: >>> Given the nature of your response to me and Jan Anders, I can see that you >>> only wish to find fault in others. >>> >>> Can you not participate without being bitchy? >>> >>> Why can't first answer the questions rather than always being on the >>> attack? You come across as a very resentful. What happened to you that >>> you are this way? Surely you can't have any close friends, the way you >>> treat people. >>> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:11 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
