Hi Mark, You may be correct. I'm still at the thinking stage. The more I think about it, the more there is to consider.
Marsha On Nov 24, 2012, at 12:12 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marsha, > In my opinion the transition from the oral can be expressed as the flipping > of DQ/SQ to SQ/DQ. With words comes the objectification of reality. The > transition of the subjective to the objective. The written word establishes > this objectification. > > Many read MoQ hoping to find Quality in the words. As a result, we end up > with a literal Quality which is purely objective. This is the problem with > taking what Pirsig writes as dogma; as a set of rules that must be followed. > As a result, one cannot appreciate Quality. Pirsig warns about this in his > books with metaphors such as the "ghost of reason." > > I am much more of an auditory learner than a visual one. I like stories to > be told to me rather than reading them. If Pirsig were to read Lila to us, > much would be clarified about what he is presenting. > > Cheers, > > > Mark > > On Nov 23, 2012, at 5:59 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Greetings, >> >> I've been thinking about words, well, words and their relationship to time. >> What might have changed when words went from an oral (hearing) tradition to >> a visual (books etc.) tradition? Isn't sound immediate and more dynamic? >> In the oral tradition, by the time you get to the last syllable of >> qual-i-ty, the sound of the first syllable is almost gone, while the word on >> a page does not cease to exist. The visual, written tradition, is certainly >> prone to be far more static. How does the transition from an oral tradition >> to a written tradition figure onto the level split between the social level >> and the intellectual level? Or even, does it figure into the split? >> >> I remember trying to read Goethe's Faust (English translation.) I could not >> read silently and have it make sense. Finally, I took it into the bath with >> me each night and read it out-loud, and soon emerged the most wonderful >> rhythm and words with all sorts of deep meaning. And of course after that I >> loved Herr Goethe. I still have a desire to experience hearing Faust in the >> original German, and I do not understand German. Ahhhhh. Anyway, what >> might have changed when words went from an oral tradition to a visual >> tradition? >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
