Hi Joe,
Analogy!!! Marsha. On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marsha, > > Existence is prior to value? I accept DQ/SQ in existence. The question > raised: How can I experience the indefinable? I posit DQ without SQ in > metaphysical terms and it seems that the unity of existence is compromised > by a definition viewing definable/indefinable levels in existence. > > In physical terms the boundaries of existence are blurred. Existence seems > to be flexible e.g., snow and water. Does that indicate that evolution > involves a metaphysical discussion of levels in existence? > > Value is a relationship. MOQ speaks differently of value in > indefinable/definable terms for quality reality instead of SOM duality in > Existence! > > Joe > > > On 12/23/12 12:35 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> Thank you for your humble opinion, and thank you for the opportunity to fix >> my >> statement: >> >> The metaphysical system that I accept is that the world is nothing but Value >> which can be experienced as patterned (static) and unpatterned (Dynamic). >> >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> On Dec 22, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi MarshaV, >>> >>> IMHO you are equating value and existence. How is existential DQ different >>> from existential SQ? Definition! Can the definition of a DQ/SQ metaphysics >>> encompass reality? >>> >>> IMHO something is omited by definition Indefinable DQ! The awareness of DQ >>> is indefinable. I call an aspect of awareness indefinable? How is >>> awareness different from a knowing which embraces indefinable DQ/SQ? >>> >>> My answer is that I experience the indefinable. Tie individual, experience, >>> and reality together. DQ/SQ. There are levels in existence! >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> On 12/22/12 5:52 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Joe, >>>> >>>> The metaphysical system that I accept is that the world is nothing but >>>> Value >>>> which can be experienced as patterned (Static) and unpatterned (Dynamic). >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi MarshaV and All, >>>>> >>>>> This statement requires a very careful exposition. Life manifests Dynamic >>>>> Quality. The metaphysics leading to the self, perceiving death, like >>>>> heroism, can be horribly misled. The question of behavior in a >>>>> dynamic/static environment must look at death as static, nothing will >>>>> change. All heroic dynamic decisions will be negated to the individual in >>>>> a >>>>> lack of existence. >>>>> >>>>> How in the hell did I ever get on this tangent? >>>>> >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/20/12 12:24 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "To the extent that one's behavior is controlled by static patterns of >>>>>> quality >>>>>> it is without choice. But to the extent that one follows Dynamic Quality, >>>>>> which is undefinable, one's behavior is free." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
