[Arlo previously] ...and the choice has consequences- [Joe] Evolution! Quality determines the choosing!
[Arlo] I've never liked this wording. All to often it implies an elimination of agency. I think it is more accurate to say Quality is akin to a field of probability, where 'what is better' is often a complex evaluation that hinges on a trajectory of simultaneous phylogenetic, ontogenetic, historical-cultural and microgenetic processes. [Joe] Can the indefinable being whimsical choose! [Arlo] There is anthropomorphic implications here I'd say are better avoided. Plus I'm not even sure what you mean by 'whimsical', as that's an post-evaluation assessment, often from an 'objective' viewpoint (like Pirsig's reaction to the word 'just'). [Joe] Maybe an accident or maybe the indefinable is self aware. [Arlo] Does self-awareness imply self-definition (what is 'me' and what is not 'me')? Does it create a paradox to imply that the undefined is defined to itself? Does this imply that our inability to define Quality is not based on an inherent undefinedness but on some perceptual inferiority within our own selves? [Joe] Beautiful Existence leads to a nightmare! [Arlo] I can rarely understand what you are trying to say, Joe, but this reminded me of the words on one of my favorite paintings. El sueño de la razón produce monstruos. The sleep of reason produces monsters. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
