Hi Joe,

Since there is no clear question within your post that I could be accused of 
evading, I will remind you that it is all analogy.  If you don't like the 
analogy that I present at any given moment, ignore it or find your own;  

Better yet "Find out for yourself."
 
 
Ma



On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi MarshaV and All,
> 
> IMHO Indeterminate (DQ) does not need a special function in accepting the
> indefinable to validate it.  Consciousness, in the awake sentient being,
> upholds logic, DQ/SQ reality.  DQ/SQ metaphysics in consciousness is
> adequate, discerning indeterminate (indefinable) DQ and determined
> (definable) SQ.  To request a special logic for every event lowers
> metaphysical discipline to a He said/She said format.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 1/18/13 3:33 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Seems to me perception is what is often being labeled 'immediate' but that is
>> not the indeterminate (DQ).   
> 
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