Hi MarshaV and All DQ/SQ! I accept this as a paradigm in communication for all reality in discourse.
A question that logically arises: If DQ is indefinable common reality, to what can I appeal for verification of what I am talking about? How do I communicate to another my experience of the indefinable? What words could I possibly use? I bypass words and make the appeal to the experience of self-consciousness to facilitate common understanding. I have to appeal to the different experience of consciousness instead of definition when stating what I am putting into words is indefinable not unknowable. DQ is not beyond or outside of conscious experience in a sentient being. Definable/indefinable metaphysics is tricky to explore. Words matter! IMHO! Joe On 1/19/13 6:08 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Joe, > > Beyond admitting to having a humble opinion, I have no idea what you are > talking about. > > > Marsha > > > > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi MarshaV and All, >> >> IMHO In the DQ/SQ metaphysics DQ is experienced as indefinable. Indefinable >> DQ is differentiated from SQ by definition. All experience is included in >> an indefinable-definable format DQ/SQ from an emotional or intellectual >> perspective. >> >> Can my experience of consciousness feel secure in the recognition of an >> indefinable DQ definable SQ format for all of reality? >> >> I recognize levels in DQ/SQ reality in a process called evolution. Should I >> look beyond determined levels in existence for reality? Is 'evolution' as >> levels in existence acceptable in metaphysics? I want to avoid the word >> "essence" as I comprehend its meaning when it is indefinable DQ only by >> analogy. I prefer "existence" as the format of DQ/SQ. It doesn't balk at >> an indefinable/definable explanation. >> >> In MOQ, the experience of existence follows the indefinable/definable format >> as the metaphysics of indefinable DQ, definable SQ reality. >> >> Joe >> >> >> On 1/18/13 6:15 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Joe, >>> >>> Since there is no clear question within your post that I could be accused of >>> evading, I will remind you that it is all analogy. If you don't like the >>> analogy that I present at any given moment, ignore it or find your own; >>> >>> Better yet "Find out for yourself." >>> >>> >>> Ma >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi MarshaV and All, >>>> >>>> IMHO Indeterminate (DQ) does not need a special function in accepting the >>>> indefinable to validate it. Consciousness, in the awake sentient being, >>>> upholds logic, DQ/SQ reality. DQ/SQ metaphysics in consciousness is >>>> adequate, discerning indeterminate (indefinable) DQ and determined >>>> (definable) SQ. To request a special logic for every event lowers >>>> metaphysical discipline to a He said/She said format. >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/18/13 3:33 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Seems to me perception is what is often being labeled 'immediate' but that >>>>> is >>>>> not the indeterminate (DQ). >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
