Hi Ant, On Feb 5, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Ant McWatt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Marsha said February 4th: > > "Ones experience of the sun is one that is ever-changing as the sun moves > position through the sky and as ones visual perspective and context > changes. Even moving ones head changes the experience." > > Ant McWatt comments: > > Marsha, > > I think you're confusing concepts by intuition with concepts by postulation > (as per Northrop) and also confusing the terms of Newtonian > mechanics with the static-Dynamic division of the MOQ. > > For instance, the sun is a concept by postulation. One of its static/stable > patterns is that it "moves position through the sky" every day. The > yellowy-orange patch (i.e. a concept by intuition) which can be observed in > the blue of the aesthetic continuum (at certain times during a clear day) is > thought to correlate to this (postulated) object. (Isn't Arlo finishing a > project on an e-version of Northrop's "The Meeting of East & West", btw?) My example was awkward; I apologize. I didn't know that one couldn't understand static patterns of value without discriminating between Northrop's concepts of postulation and concepts of intuition. But it seems to me that as concepts they both have an aspect which is mental and therefore constantly changing. > Marsha continued February 4th: > > "And I thought the MOQ was to change the everyday understanding from one > of self and objects to one where the world is nothing but value. I > didn't think it was to keep the everyday mundane understanding in a > static state of ignorance." > > Ant McWatt comments: > > As with the post of Dan's that I recently responded to, this type of > statement worries me. Isn't the primary use of the MOQ to improve the Quality > of your life? There's just a certain limit that pondering from the Dynamic > perspective of the World of Buddhas is going to take you. It ain't going to > fix yer bike! I don't get that, directly experienced or pondered, the insight that "all aspects of our experience are in constant flux and change" is understanding confined to the world of the Buddhas. I think pondering emptiness and being mindful helps establish a clear mind, an asset for all types of fixing. > Thanks for the tip with the tea, by the way. The Golden Monkey tea that you > recommended will be next purchase tea-wise; even if I have to buy it over the > Internet. Very yummy! Marsha > > Best wishes, > > Ant > > > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:35:43 -0500 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MD] self >> >> >> Ant, >> >> Ones experience of the sun is one that is ever-changing as the sun moves >> position through the sky and as ones visual perspective and context changes. >> Even moving ones head changes the experience. And I thought the MoQ was to >> change the everyday understanding from one of self and objects to one where >> the world is nothing but value. I didn't think it was to keep the everyday >> mundane understanding in a static state of ignorance. - I would certainly >> recommend your PhD thesis and Textbook as a valuable resource. > > > . > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
