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On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:42 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Static patterns are static and they're patterned no matter how many times she 
> [Marsha] uses the phrase "ever-changing static patterns". In a hundred years, 
> that will still be a stupid thing to say. 

If putting that on quotes was to signify it was a phrase I used, you are 
misrepresenting for a reason I cannot fathom.  My explanation/definition of 
static patterns of value is:  

-- Static patterns of value are repetitive processes, conditionally 
co-dependent, impermanent and ever-changing, that pragmatically tend to persist 
and change within a stable, predictable pattern.  Within the MoQ, these 
patterns are morally categorized into a four-level, evolutionary, hierarchical 
structure:  inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. Static quality 
exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns:  patterns depend upon ( 
exist relative to) innumerable causes and conditions (patterns), depend upon 
(exist relative to) parts and the collection of parts (patterns), depend upon 
(exist relative to) conceptual designation (patterns). Patterns have no 
independent, inherent existence.  Further, these patterns pragmatically exist 
relative to an individual's static pattern of life history. -- 

And I use the term 'ever-changing' because patterns of value are both static 
AND ever-changing as I have explained many times.    Each time a pattern 
momentarily interacts with consciousness it is different than the time before, 
and if you have an experience with a pattern in any other way than as an 
interaction with consciousness, please explain how that happens.  A little 
patience and introspection would help you see this; that's _see_ as in insight. 
 But maybe like James you will meet a gumption trap and give up, and stay 
self-involved with your static rambling thoughts.  And they will forever have 
you.  My explanation/definition is meant to point as far away from 'inherently 
existing' as possible.  I think that that is most important.  That static 
patterns of value are ever-changing agrees with my experience, which not 
confused with the static representation of words on a page.  
 
 
Marsha 
 
 
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