Marsha stated March 18th 2013:
Hi Ant,
Sorry, but other than RMP's book recommendation, the quotes (pp. 30 - 31) came
directly from Hagen's book...
Ant McWatt comments:
Marsha, I did realise that, thanks!
Marsha continued March 18th 2013:
With my interest in Buddhism and such an important comparison suggested
by RMP, I have found Steve Hagen's insights very meaningful, and
sometimes I just cannot imagine stating something better than him.
Ant McWatt comments:
Yes, I would agree with your sentiments here.
Marsha then stated March 18th 2013:
When I have something put together in a form I am comfortable with I will
present it...
Ant McWatt responds:
Sounds good, Marsha. I certainly look forward to reading it.
Marsha then asked Ant:
Have YOU got anything original to offer?
Ant McWatt responds:
No,
not today, Marsha... I read both ZMM and Lila each within a few
years of their publication dates and have lived with these ideas for a
sizable chunk of my life now. If I could say something in person to Dr.
Pirsig now, it would probably be: "Thanks, for nothing." I find my
view of the world so out of sync with the culture around me that it is
difficult to carry on even casual conversations much of the time. But on
the other hand I can no longer imagine that land of shadow I have been
lifted from.
Pirsig's book certainly caused a paradigm shift for
me but I have noticed that just because a paradigm shifts doesn't mean
everyone shifts with it. You don't have to throw many rocks on a crowded
street to hit a Newtonian! No one speaks much of the quantum paradigm
other than to comment on how disturbing it is, but to me it is part and
parcel to the MOQ. The central characteristic of Quality, the Tao, is
its uncertain nature. It can not be defined, only experienced. Couple
this with Godel's Theorem that there is uncertainty even at the heart of
mathematics and the creaking sound you hear are paradigms shifting
around you.
So I'm still dealing with various
philosophological issues to do with the MOQ. But who knows
about the future? And, anyway, the MOQ (having been published very
recently in philosophical terms) is no where near being "stewed" yet.
It's still a whole new country of the mind!
Yours pioneeringly,
Doc McWatt
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Marsha's original message:
> Hi Ant,
>
>
Sorry, but other than RMP's book recommendation, the quotes (pp. 30 -
31) came directly from Hagen's book which I have read many times. With
my interest in Buddhism and such an important comparison suggested by
RMP, I have found Steve Hagen's insights very meaningful, and sometimes I
just cannot imagine stating something better than him. If you used a
portion of the same quote in the MOQ Textbook, that can only reinforce
its value. But you know me, when I have something put together in a form
I am comfortable with I will present it, often repeatedly. Until then,
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Marsha
>
> p.s. Have you got anything original to offer?
>
>
.
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