Well written Dave

but would you have done it if Marsha wasn't here?

I guess that the need for social confirmation is one of the driving forces 
behind many trolls in internet forums. To be or not to be... MD is not the only 
one with some trolls. Another important fact about internet forums that may 
apply to trolls is the absence of celebrity grading system. All members are 
just a signature and there is no way for a beginner to detect who are the 
quality guys and who are the zunis. In the 18th century celebrities were quite 
eager to mark their social position by a lot of titles, well born, highly 
redeemed, royal and such. If the MOQ would be the source for defining the need 
and introducing a system for celebrity grading on internet forums to control 
the trolls in an appropriate manner at the social level it would maybe be a 
small breakthrough for the practical use of the MOQ. 1, 2, 3.

"Broken hearts are for assholes." Frank Zappa

Jan Anders


22 mar 2013 kl. 21.50 skrev david buchanan:

> The linguist's definition is broad enough and general enough to describe what 
> assholes do in any situation. But I was thinking that "troll" is a more 
> specific kind of asshole, the kind you find on the internet wherever people 
> are trying to have a conversation or express their views. A "troll" is a 
> person who cannot or will not do what's appropriate in the ways of discussion 
> or debate in cyberspace. They are assholes with a keyboard and a connection 
> to the internet, as opposed to the assholes in grocery stores, on the 
> highway, or whatever. Unlike their counterparts in the "real" world, the 
> troll can hide behind fake names, multiple avatars, and the like. Studies 
> show that this anonymity tends to make everyone a little meaner and sassier 
> than they would be in a face-to-face situation (no big surprise there) but 
> this effect is magnified in the case of assholes. Trolls don't just refuse to 
> act right, they also aggressively misbehave. To the extent that they can read 
> the situati
 on, they actively and energetically interrupt, derail, highjack, and otherwise 
spoil the conversation. This usually involves tons of heated words and insults 
and sometimes nothing but. I'm no psychoanalyst but it seems to me that this 
kind of behavior is usually driven by the belief that it's better to be hated 
than ignored, i.e. they do it for the attention. They need attention so 
desperately that even negative attention will satisfy their hunger, or so they 
hope.

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