Marsha had said: > > The subject is intellectual static patterns of value. You presented that > intellectual patterns are defined as art. If this is what you think, can you > offer an explanation? Within the definition of art there are many entries. > Does any one in particular appeal to you?
[Ron responds] It has been characterized as the expression of value, creativity, interpretation and inspiration, beauty and taste , critical reflection broadening human nature and aiding in bringing us back to what is essential about humanity. The act of recognizing high quality patterns of value. Skill arising from the exercise of intuitive faculties, ie:skill in conducting any human activity. Excellence . Killing excellence, art and creativity does not seem to be very moral to me. "The priest presents for consideration a compound of inherited forms [static patterns] with the expectation (or, at times, even requirement) that one should interpret and experience them in a certain authorized way, whereas the artist first has an experience [DQ] of his own, which he then seeks to interpret and communicate through effective forms [static patterns]. Not the forms first and then the experience, but the experience first, and then the forms." -- Joseph Campbell, “Mythological Themes in Creative Literature and Art,” The Mythic Dimension, p. 186 .. What is being discussed and argued over is the meaning of the "hero's journey" I contend that the full meaning of the hero's journey lies in the return from the dynamic unknown with a "boon" (as Joe Campbell uses) to society. To be the artist and effectivly comunicate experience. While it seems to me that the so-called "mystics" maintain that what the Zen would call 180 degree enlightenment is the more moral aim . They rest on the immediate now of no mind at their journey's end. I see that as retarding and arresting human growth. Not to mention it does not sustain social patterns while following DQ. This is the big conflict and I do believe Horse has said it best. .. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
