Hi All I think the only "preconceptual pattern" before experience there are, must be based on an individual choice of the ultimate motivator for the creation and evolution. A basic meme, statistical chance, the selfish gene, God, Good or something else. It can also be based on the level of understanding that is deepened for every new discovery. "The day he experienced that there where no small engineer living inside the clock he was amazed over his new discovery of how wonderful the science of mechanics showed up to him."
"Quality can be equated with God, but I don’t like to do so. ‘God’, to most people, is a set of static intellectual and social patterns. Only true religious mystics can correctly equate God with Dynamic Quality. In the West, particularly around universities, these people are quite rare." RMP. Letter to Anthony McWatt, September 11th 1994 DM may have a point in that he maybe suspect that there are more there than he can understand at the moment. Dmb is very very correct about the diffenece between DQ and SQ but that doesn't mean that Marsha, DM or other will understand at the moment. They just sort of went into the wrong class. Value to me, and according to the laws of Thermodynamics, is based upon three independent parameters: Amount, character and what is it compared to. Experiencing is valueing. A balanced experience in the three aspects is good while an unbalanced is bad because it leads to a worse experience in the next moment. In the other hand, Goodness, is balancing and slowing down evolution while cracks and anomalies starts a new process. "Always two of them there are", Master Yoda. Static Quality is the answer to the question What? Dynamic Quality is the answer to the question How? It feels so good to hug and kiss my darling but Why? Jan-Anders 7 okt 2013 x kl. 22.10 skrev Craig Erb: > "pure experience is a continuous flow of perceptions." > > Not exactly. How about the experience of happiness? Or dreams?[DMB] >> If the baby ignores this force of Dynamic Quality [the flux of > >> experience] ..., but if he is normally attentive to Dynamic >> Quality he will soon begin to notice differences and then >> correlations between the differences and then repetitive >> patterns of the correlations. > > [DM] >> so repetitive patterns are noticed by babies, before [they] >> get to concept[s]... > > As amoebae differentiate between water & acid without concepts. (Though > admittedly all this is just a theory.) > A crucial question is: what is it about the flux of experience that allows > for having the same experience? > Say at time t1 there is flux F1 where I experience a newspaper on the coffee > table, at t2 flux F2 where I experience > the newspaper on the coffee table & at t4 flux F4 where I do not experience > the newspaper on the coffee table. > It can't be that the undifferentiated F1 is similar to F2 but differs from > F4, because if the fluxa are undifferentiated, > they can have no similarities or differences. > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if someone else comes at t3 with flux F3 and takes the newspaper from the > coffee table, how does this affect flux F4? > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
