John, Craig,
Darwinism, like everything else, has a broad definition when you're
for it and a narrow one when your aim is to criticise and reject it.

"Social Darwinism" (in all its narrowly defined scare quotes) deserves
all its bad press, but enlightened-neo-pan-Darwinism sits comfortably
throughout all levels of the MoQ, social and intellectual included.

Some people do "know" better, whether they say it, think it or know
it. What matters is how they act. Intentions matter.

I'll have to read the link now ;-)
Ian
BTW Craig, you're one of the few who took a look at my working model
of the MoQ - I'd be interested in any thoughts on the "twice-born"
metaphor of enlightened intellect. I'm planning to post a review of
Terry Eagleton's "Culture and the Death of God" later today or
tomorrow, and he gave me some interesting ideas to add there. (All
relevant to socio-intellectual-Evolution, or memetics as I call it,
after Dennett et al.)

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:50 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote:
> I guess it depends upon whom you ask, Craig.
>
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Craig Erb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Very MOQ-like:
>>
>>
> According to many, the MOQ adopts the Darwinian struggle/competition
> model.  It was an interesting article.  Makes one wonder what the MOQ would
> be like today if Pirsig had been interpreting his ideas to Russians instead
> of Americans.
>
> "In an explicit riposte to social Darwinists, Kropotkin argued that the
> entire theoretical basis for Social Darwinism was wrong: those species that
> cooperate most effectively tend to be the most competitive in the long run."
>
> JohnC
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