dmb, > On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:10 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ron said to dmb: > To clarify mythos: a pattern of beliefs expressing often symbolically the > characteristic or prevalent attitudes in a group or culture. -- > Merriam-Webster > > Speaking of mythos and addressing the comment I had made regarding the hero's > journey in the paper, "the Jung and the restless" I had seen a connection > with the concept and analogy of 360 degree enlightenment that rolls out quite > simply in this manner: leaving the mythos (orpheus entering the world of the > dead) as roughly consistent with 180 degree enlightenment then the return > back into the mythos ( the hero returning with a boon to society-ala > Campbell) as roughly consistent with the notion of the 360 degree > enlightenment. I was wondering if you noted the connection also and were > hinting at it as strengthening the explanation Paul Turner had offered. > > > > dmb says: > > Oh, I see. I wasn't thinking of Paul's paper at the time but there certainly > is a connection between the hero's journey and the full circle of > enlightenment and it's just as you describe it, especially when the hero is > somebody like Buddha or Christ. > > The symbolic, mythic form of this idea is just as true as the more geometric > or philosophic explanations and they both express the same idea. As Pirsig > points out, the intellectual descriptions are not superior because they are > more true but because they are more dynamic, more open to change and > evolution. And it's not that we have to choose one or the other, of course, > because comparative mythology necessarily includes both forms of expression. > > Now Imagine what happens when the hero ventures out of the mythos but fails > to complete the cycle and never comes back. Poor Dorothy. She'll be stuck in > the land of OZ forever. Poor Orpheus. He'll be hanging out with the dead in > the dark forever. Poor Bodhi, he'll never stop sitting under that Buddha > Tree. I think we should take the MOQ as a form of philosophical mysticism, as > an intellectual expression of this same perennial philosophy, and traveling > only 180 degrees of the circle is equally tragic. To see the world of > evolving values as a prison of illusions is very much like being stuck in the > dead land of Oz. Poor Marsha, she likes it there. She'll never come back.
What difference would it make if you hold this to be true? Marsha Marsha Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
