David M to Andre:
Not only is the pre-conceptual 'very little' it also does not exist, bit
odd, bit silly,...
Andre:
Okay David. Nitpicking an expression of speech. By 'very little' in the
context I used it I mean 'none'.
DM:
'...also there is something 'aforementioned' that 'generates' all
'conceptualisations' you say, yet nothing pre-conceptual exists.
Andre:
That's exactly right David.From experience we can abstract concepts
BECAUSE it is concept free, in the same way that we abstract tastes,
smells, feelings, sensations, sounds and perceptions. We can do this
BECAUSE DQ is without taste, without smell, without feelings, without
sensations, without sound, without perceptions.
Because of our human form (eg the five senses) we bring these to DQ and
abstract whatever seems best befitting our human form, history and
cultural background. Again, we can do this BECAUSE DQ 'means nothing,
and is but what it immediately is.'
It can contain anything you want BECAUSE DQ is contain-less. Using the
Buddhist 'form' and 'formlessness' it can be any form you like BECAUSE
it is formless. It can contain anything BECAUSE it is nothing.
Hence all these varieties of colours, shapes, forms, tastes, smells,
perspectives, feelings, sensations, conceptualizations... you name it
BECAUSE it is none of these and therefore all of these.
That's why a synonym for Quality is freedom.
DM:
Well you do seem to have proved your other point: you know very little.
Andre:
I do think that knowing very little is not necessarily something
negative. Remember the tea-pouring story of the Zen master receiving his
guest who expressed interest in learning more about Zen? He kept on
filling his guest's cup way past overflowing because he knew his guest
was so full of his own sq patterns that nothing new could enter.
Time to empty my cup again. Perhaps you should try it as well.
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