David M to Andre:
Glad to hear it. There is much more agreement here than my interpreters
seem to want to admit,...
Andre:
I am not sure what you are glad about David. Perhaps the part where I
said that 'There are many things going on at all levels about which I
have no knowledge...'. Perhaps you see this as a statement of agreement
with your pre-conceptual sq. Sorry mate but nothing could be farther
from the truth.
What I could have added were some examples: I know very little of the
inorganic level...I'll leave that to the quantum physicists, chemistry
professors and geologists. I know very little of the organic
level...I'll leave that to the (micro) biologists and botanists. I know
very little of the social level...I'll leave that to anthropologists,
sociologists, trend-spotters, bankers, economists, law makers etc. And I
know very little of the intellectual level but we are not discussing
that here. We are using that here. After all, Pirig's MoQ is a static
intellectual pattern of value.
All these aforementioned will generate theories, ideas,
conceptualizations of explaining, making sense of their respective
fields. There is very little 'pre-conceptual' stuff there because that
does not exist.
DM:
All I am saying is that before we conceptualise experience it is full of
content, senses, tastes, etc.
Andre:
I told you before that this is impossible. It is a logical absurdity.
'Content', 'senses', 'tastes' ARE conceptualizations David...even 'etc' is!
DM:
Now what do we call all this pattern, DMB says all SQ is conceptual, so
is all sensual pattern DQ? Is DQ pre-definition but nonetheless full of
pattern? Or is there a load of pre-conceptual SQ before we get to
conceptual SQ that DMB is refusing to appreciate and recognise?
Andre:
Here you go again David. These are all nonsense statements. They may
sound very deep and impressive to you but it's just nonsense.
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