Michael,

Perhaps you will present some statements by Emerson that demonstrate the 
"leaving behind this world" that concerns you.


Marsha

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On Nov 30, 2013, at 5:50 PM, "Michael R. Brown" <[email protected]> wrote:

Marsha -

Not especially, though Emerson has that leaving-behind thrust to him even when 
he's all hearty and worldly.


MRB

> On 11/30/2013 12:57 PM, MarshaV wrote:
> Michael,
> 
> Do you have a complaint with this particular essay?  And I agree with Mr. 
> Pirsig about doing well.  I believe posters on this forum would all like to 
> do well, and better.
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2013, at 11:38 AM, "Michael R. Brown" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My only problem with the American Transcendentalists is leaving behind this 
>> world.
>> 
>> Mr. D. H. Lawrence puts it into the mouth of his Jesus, who survives the 
>> Cross and rethinks his mission, and repents a bit, and in the end thinks: 
>> "From what, and to what, could this infinite whirl be saved?"
>> 
>> Mr. Pirsig doesn't seem to worry too much about saving. He just wants us to 
>> do well. You can kind of tell these things.
>> 
>> 
>> MRB
>> 
>>> On 11/30/2013 2:37 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>>> Ralph Waldo Emerson: Intellect
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Our spontaneous action is always the best. You cannot, with your best 
>>> deliberation and heed, come so close to any question as your spontaneous 
>>> glance shall bring you, whilst you rise from your bed, or walk abroad in 
>>> the morning after meditating the matter before sleep on the previous night. 
>>> Our thinking is a pious reception. Our truth of thought is therefore 
>>> vitiated as much by too violent direction given by our will, as by too 
>>> great negligence. We do not determine what we will think. We only open our 
>>> senses, clear away, as we can, all obstruction from the fact, and suffer 
>>> the intellect to see. We have little control over our thoughts. We are the 
>>> prisoners of ideas. They catch us up for moments into their heaven, and so 
>>> fully engage us, that we take no thought for the morrow, gaze like 
>>> children, without an effort to make them our own. By and by we fall out of 
>>> that rapture, bethink us where we have been, what we have seen, and repeat, 
>>> as truly as we can, what we have behe
 ld.  As far as we can recall these ecstasies, we carry away in the 
ineffaceable memory the result, and all men and all the ages confirm it. It is 
called Truth. But the moment we cease to report, and attempt to correct and 
contrive, it is not truth."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4_36Y4mG_CI
>>>                
>>> 
>>> 
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