Moq adds nothing to the Tao Som intellect kills the esthetic of The Tao .
Moq intellect sustains biological And social "rightness" and talks About the driving force of rightness Which nothing has been said about, Moq intellect seeks to talk about The Buddha within analytic thought. . Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:21 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "Then, on impulse, Phædrus went over to his bookshelf and picked out a small, > blue, cardboard-bound book. He'd hand-copied this book and bound it himself > years before, when he couldn't find a copy for sale anywhere. It was the > 2,400-year-old Tao Te Ching of Lao Tzu. He began to read through the lines he > had read many times before, but this time he studied it to see if a certain > substitution would work. He began to read and interpret it at the same time. > > "He read: > > "The quality that can be defined is not the Absolute Quality. > > "That was what he had said. > > "The names that can be given it are not Absolute names. > > "It is the origin of heaven and earth. > > "When named it is the mother of all things -- . > > "Exactly. > > "Quality [romantic Quality] and its manifestations [classic Quality] are in > their nature the same. It is given different names [subjects and objects] > when it becomes classically manifest. > > "Romantic quality and classic quality together may be called the ``mystic.'' > > "Reaching from mystery into deeper mystery, it is the gate to the secret of > all life. > > "Quality is all-pervading. > > "And its use is inexhaustible! > > "Fathomless! > > "Like the fountainhead of all things -- > > "Yet crystal clear like water it seems to remain." > > --- > > > On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:09 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > "Phædrus remembered Hegel had been regarded as a bridge between Western and > Oriental philosophy. The Vedanta of the Hindus, the Way of the Taoists, even > the Buddha had been described as an absolute monism similar to Hegel's > philosophy. Phædrus doubted at the time, however, whether mystical Ones and > metaphysical monisms were introconvertable since mystical Ones follow no > rules and metaphysical monisms do. His Quality was a metaphysical entity, not > a mystic one. Or was it? What was the difference? He answered himself that > the difference was one of definition. Metaphysical entities are defined. > Mystical Ones are not. That made Quality mystical. No. It was really both. > Although he'd thought of it purely in philosophical terms up to now as > metaphysical, he had all along refused to define it. That made it mystic too. > Its indefinability freed it from the rules of metaphysics." > > > >> On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:19 AM, "Michael R. Brown" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> The Buddha who can be missed isn't the Buddha. >> >> The misser who misses the Buddha, though, probably is the misser. >> >> There's the rub! >> >> >> MRB >> >>> On 11/24/2013 9:15 AM, MarshaV wrote: >>> Hi Ron, >>> >>> "To understand what he [Phædrus] was trying to do it's necessary to see >>> that part of the landscape, inseparable from it, which must be understood, >>> is a figure in the middle of it, sorting sand into piles. To see the >>> landscape without seeing this figure is not to see the landscape at all. To >>> reject that part of the Buddha that attends to the analysis of motorcycles >>> is to miss the Buddha entirely. >>> >>> "There is a perennial classical question that asks which part of the >>> motorcycle, which grain of sand in which pile, is the Buddha. Obviously to >>> ask that question is to look in the wrong direction, for the Buddha is >>> everywhere. But just as obviously to ask that question is to look in the >>> right direction, for the Buddha is everywhere. About the Buddha that exists >>> independently of any analytic thought much has been said...some would say >>> too much, and would question any attempt to add to it. But about the Buddha >>> that exists within analytic thought, and gives that analytic thought its >>> direction, virtually nothing has been said, and there are historic reasons >>> for this. But history keeps happening, and it seems no harm and maybe some >>> positive good to add to our historical heritage with some talk in this area >>> of discourse. >>> >>> "When analytic thought, the knife, is applied to experience, something is >>> always killed in the process. That is fairly well understood, at least in >>> the arts. Mark Twain's experience comes to mind, in which, after he had >>> mastered the analytic knowledge needed to pilot the Mississippi River, he >>> discovered the river had lost its beauty. ..." >>> >>> >>> ZAMM was a GREAT BOOK!!! LILA too! >>> >>> >>> Marsha > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
