Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail ? Or (for dmb), can you tell the green slime from your feet of clay ?
The distinction between levels 1 and 2 is "life" - not necessarily organic life, or DNA-based organic life, that just happens to be the most-obvious form in the circumstances of human history. Just life. Now, defining life .... replication is a key part of it, but if you're into splitting hairs you'll find everything comes in layers, including the layers .... Ian On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:58 PM, david <dmbucha...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > dmb says: > As I understand it, the distinction between organic and inorganic is > something everyone already understands. It's not something Pirsig invented. > It's just the difference between Adam and the clay from which he was formed. > It's the difference between rocks and trees, between ants and suns. I don't > understand why anyone needs to ask such a question. > > >> Jan-Anders: >> >> By inspiration from Andre I'll suggest that we start a discussion about how >> to define the difference between level one, the inorganic and level two, the >> organic. I couldn't find any consistent thread in the Archives. >> >> Andre: >> 'Everything that has not been created by life (defined as DNA) is an >> inorganic value pattern'. Annot.42 >> >> Ipso facto an organic pattern is the 'presence of DNA in a self-perpetuating >> pattern'. Annot.23 >> >> The boundary between inorganic patterns and organic patterns is the virus >> 'because it is the simplest organism that contains DNA. I have read there is >> some dispute about the virus being living or dead, and I take this dispute >> as evidence that it is the boundary' Annotn. 48. >> > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
