dmb quoted from Peter Hacker's article, "Why Study Philosophy?":

 "The study of philosophy cultivates a healthy scepticism about the moral 
opinions, political arguments and economic reasonings with which we are daily 
bombarded by ideologues, churchmen, politicians and economists. It teaches one 
to detect ‘higher forms of nonsense’, to identify humbug, to weed out 
hypocrisy, and to spot invalid reasoning. It curbs our taste for nonsense, and 
gives us a nose for it instead. It teaches us not to rush to affirm or deny 
assertions, but to raise questions about them.  Even more importantly, it 
teaches us to raise questions about questions, to probe for their tacit 
assumptions and presuppositions, and to challenge these when warranted. In this 
way it gives us a distance from passion-provoking issues – a degree of 
detachment that is conducive to reason and reasonableness."



Ian replied:

"Healthy scepticism" is indeed a requirement of any worthwhile discourse. But 
of course it's neither the point, nor the whole of such discourse. Having 
cultivated a healthy scepticism, the point is constructive creativity towards 
new meaningful hypotheses. It's crude "scientism" to think the way to arrive at 
truth is falsification and critical thinking, that's simply a way to test 
potential truths. The easy bit.


Ron replied to Ian:

In order for hypothesis to be meaningful, conceptualization must be skillful. 
It's a guide to belief and action. You seem to be saying that the whole point 
of discourse is to arrive at truth. The whole point is to arrive at meaning, if 
you don't have the skills it's highly unlikely your hypothesis, no matter how 
creative, will have any significant meaning.


"The National Council for Excellence in Critical Thinking (a non-profit 
organisation based in the U.S.) defines critical thinking as the intellectually 
disciplined process of actively and skilfully conceptualizing, applying, 
analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered from, or 
generated by, observation, experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, 
as a guide to belief and action."



dmb says:
At least two of Ian's claims are baseless. 1) Hacker never said that skepticism 
is "the whole of such discourse" - and he said nothing to preclude creative 
thinking either. 2) Hacker never said falsification was the way to arrive at 
truth. (I believe "falsification" was Popper's baby.)

While it's true that Hacker (and the National Council of Excellence in Critical 
Thinking) has very well described critical thinking - or what Pirsig simply 
calls "the skilled manipulation of abstract symbols - this is no way a "crude 
scientism". It's not scientism at all. There is plenty of it going around this 
days but I do not see any in Hacker's article. 

Ian's response is a great example of what happens in the absence of critical 
thinking skills. Like Hacker said, philosophy teaches critical thinking. It 
"teaches one to detect ‘higher forms of nonsense’, to identify humbug, to weed 
out hypocrisy, and to spot invalid reasoning. It curbs our taste for nonsense, 
and gives us a nose for it instead." 

Some people do not understand how this process is supposed to work and, 
apparently, cannot take any kind of criticism as anything other than a personal 
assault. It does matter if the criticism is a legitimate response to comments 
in a discussion posted in a discussion group because finding fault is not 
critical thinking to these people. It's personal abuse. How is it possible to 
have a reasonable debate in that situation? Again, it's like showing up at the 
chess club with a tennis racket. 

If you resent these demands or feel injured by criticism when you fail to meet 
them, then get a different hobby. There is no way to escape it if you want to 
discuss anything at all with people who do care about the rules of this game. 
It's childish and unrealistic to think otherwise. 

Wikipedia's definition of Scientism:
Scientism is a term used to refer to belief in the universal applicability of 
the scientific method and approach, and the view that empirical science 
constitutes the most authoritative worldview or most valuable part of human 
learning to the exclusion of other viewpoints.[1] It has been defined as "the 
view that the characteristic inductive methods of the natural sciences are the 
only source of genuine factual knowledge and, in particular, that they alone 
can yield true knowledge about man and society."[2] The term scientism 
frequently implies a critique of the more extreme expressions of logical 
positivism[3][4] and has been used by social scientists such as Friedrich 
Hayek,[5] philosophers of science such as Karl Popper,[6] and philosophers such 
as Hilary Putnam[7] and Tzvetan Todorov[8] to describe the dogmatic endorsement 
of scientific methodology and the reduction of all knowledge to only that which 
is measurable.



                                          
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