[JC] But go ahead, Arlo, argue some more with me. I always like your arguments. They're pretty good, tho not deeply thought out.
[Arlo] Ah, rhetoric. It's amazing how dismissive rhetoric can conceal sloppy thinking, isn't it? You can jump around and try to skirt whatever I've said, its fine, I'm not so much arguing with you as arguing AT you, to be honest. I've recognized long ago the difference between showing somebody something, and showing others something that somebody doesn't understand. In any event, you mentioned this 'right/left brain' thing now, and, maybe if you spent more time in the academy you'd realize this is really not taken seriously much anymore. Here's a short pop article you might understand about this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/19/right-brain-left-brain-debunked_n_3762322.html. So while we'll likely use in the vernacular "right-brained" and "left-brained" for a while, in reality these don't map to the categories you're still stuck in (Pirsig's pre-solution classical/romantic schism). [JC] Uniting does not mean erasing individual differences. [Arlo] Pirsig specifically said "unite... into ONE". He specifically calls the schism a "problem", and offered a "resolution of the entire PROBLEM of classic and romantic understanding". His solution is the "classic and romantic understanding should be UNITED at a basic level." No where in ZMM do I see him make any effort to maintain this division, no where do I am here say these should be coexisting but independent categories. His argument originates in a world (Ancient Greece) where this division does not exist. [JC] Yes, but in the end, that technne has evolved into something far different from art. Unless you want to say that global-corporate economic control is an art. [Arlo] No, because I'd say that global-corporate economic control is not a high-quality endeavor. What it IS, often, is a manifestation of social power seeking to dominate intellectual patterns. I think others have already said to you that just because human activity can be artful, doesn't mean all human activity is artful. You seem to think that Pirsig's solution obliterates art, and I think that only demonstrates you do not understand much of what he has said. Pirsig's solution RESCUES 'art', and until you understand that, you're missing the entire point. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
