Hi Ron The Pragmatic "rites" of today is more into unbiased science.
FZ: Occams razor - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp93bcp4HCM JanAnders 15 jun 2014 x kl. 19.35 skrev Ron Kulp: > Jan, > Interestingly enough, these"spirits" > Were commonly used in ancient rites > Just for the divination of the Dynamic, > Static pattern breaking temporary psychosis is the theme. > Some argue that it was these rites > Which indeed ARE evolutionary processes. > I think RMPs work is based in this theme. > > -Ron > >> On Jun 15, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Sorry Ant >> >> At first I thought you were ironic. But I'll stick to the experience of our >> sensory system that was developed and guided by DQ through the evolution at >> all 4 levels. I don't think drugs will help us understand DQ any better. >> Alcohol, tobacco, dope, they all affect how the brain functions. The problem >> while using drugs is that the observation of oneself is also affected, the >> mind-mirror is colored by the same substance. You think you see all there is >> to see, with colored and distorted glasses. It may also distort your reading. >> >> All the inorganic, the biological, social and intellectual static patterns >> that took place before us made its evolutionary steps without drugs. Being a >> fly in a soup doesn't work very good. >> >> Drugs affect our critical parts of our mental system in a destructive >> direction. Because, we need both sound critical and sensual abilities at its >> best to come closer to DQ. >> >> We don't need drugs to hallucinate or find new patterns of thought. >> Mutations, dreams and stupidity are already at hand. Some days can get >> really weird. >> >> Good art is a well balanced pattern in the three dimensions. Anyone can do >> anything better just by some conscious excercise. You'll really know when >> you are on the right track. >> >> Take a fork, is it the right size or is it for picking olives? How many >> teeth and are all straight? Is it the best tool for eating soup? >> >> Bon appétit >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1uBcMfBl8 >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPJ1ybWo09s >> >> Jan-Anders >> >> >>> 15 jun 2014 x kl. 14.56 skrev Ant McWatt: >>> >>> Jan Anders, >>> >>> Thank you for the brief comment! I think you're slightly missing the point >>> though. >>> >>> If someone asked me if I'd prefer a dentist, doctor or lawyer who takes >>> cannabis or LSD in the evening at home AFTER they have done their day's >>> work, then all things being equal, I would choose them every time over >>> their "sober" colleagues (who probably have been people with serious >>> alcohol problems anyway)! Hence the link to the Susan Blackmore article in >>> my last MD post: >>> >>> www.susanblackmore.co.uk/journalism/telegraphdrugs.htm. >>> >>> Another example is that I don't personally listen to much (if any) popular >>> music by musicians who haven't taken recreational drugs. As Bill hicks >>> noted, drug free inspired rock music sucks!!! >>> >>> Finally, the bottom line with me with all drugs is combining freedom to >>> chose as an adult what drugs I take WITH the responsibility and education >>> that such freedom entails (or should at least try to seek). >>> >>> For instance, Adrie's recent heartfelt post (much appreciated btw) about >>> the latter shows to me (amongst other issues) that the cannabis market in >>> the Netherlands is unfortunately not being controlled properly (despite my >>> initial impressions given in my "Handbook"). >>> >>> As ever, we see the methodology of "participant observation" (Adries lives >>> in Holland; I've only been a tourist there a couple of times), as promoted >>> by Pirsig in LILA, is the primary way to go for researching such issues. >>> In other words, he knows what he's talking about in this particular regard, >>> I don't! >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Ant >>> >>> >>> Jan Anders Andersson responded to Ant McWatt's last MD post, June 14th 2014: >>> >>> I think drugs are ok as long as you also accept that your dentist, your >>> doctor or your lawyer are stoned while assisting you. >>> >>> >>> . >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
