John, It seems like it would explain A lot at first, but the longer I Think on it the more confining It becomes. Still mulling it over .. -Ron
> On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:49 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > > My line of thought was triggered by Jan-Anders inquiry into the "Step Two", > Horse, and as such is not as ridiculous as you are putting forth. > In the earliest human communities, and to the American Indian, Religion in > the form of do's and don't, myth and meaning, was EVERYTHING and it guided > every step of their lives. > It takes no great leap then to call their social patterns, religious. > > We who live in a more enlightened age, associate religion with superstition > and foolishness but I say that in our blanket denigration of earlier > ancestors, we are ignoring the unproven assumptions by which we live and > take on "faith". > > But I see that nobody wants to engage with this idea, so I'll shut up about > it. > > John > > >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Horse <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> And religion is one part of the social level not it's entirety - or are >> you as blind to that as Bo is blind to anything other than subjects and >> objects being the whole of the intellectual level? At the moment you are >> making as much sense as Bo - possibly less! >> >> Horse >> >> >> >> >>> On 23/08/2014 01:27, John Carl wrote: >>> >>> Horse, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Horse <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> John >>>> >>>> Whether you're serious or not is irrelevant. Saying the Social level is >>>> the 'Religious Level' has as much credence as saying the Intellectual >>>> level >>>> is the 'Individual' level or consists entirely of Subjects and Objects! >>>> Belief in sky pixies or gods or god with some sort of mysterious >>>> creationist type mythology (which covers the majority of religions) is >>>> pure >>>> social level patterns. >>>> It's basically hogwash with holes in it! >>>> >>>> Horse >>>> >>>> >>>>> I believe that's my exact point? That "Belief in sky pixies or gods >>> or god >>> with some sort of mysterious creationist type mythology (which covers the >>> majority of religions) is pure social level patterns" >>> >>> Pure social level indeed! >>> >>> John >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> -- >> >> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production >> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >> — Frank Zappa >> >> >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> http://www.avast.com >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > -- > "finite players > play within boundaries. > Infinite players > play *with* boundaries." > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
