Corrected link.. http://open.spotify.com/track/0HOh8tT4hPM6RcwRzmA9OI
26 aug 2014 x kl. 23:17 skrev Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]>: > Yes > > There is a razor too, the dividing principle, known as ethic betterness. The > betterness of jumping into a superior level. > > "So what Phaedrus was saying was that not just life, but everything, > is an ethical activity. It is nothing else. When inorganic patterns of > reality create life the Metaphysics of Quality postulates that they've > done so because it's "better" and that this definition of "betterness" > -this beginning response to Dynamic Quality-is an elementary unit of > ethics upon which all right and wrong can be based.” Lila > > The hunt for step two is to find the very treshold from organic into social > betterness. > Where is it? > > While looking around we’re listening to the dynamic canadian fiddler Jaron > Freeman-Fox: http://open.spotify.com/track/0HOh8tT4hPM6RcwRzmA9OI > > all the best > > Jan-Anders > > > 26 aug 2014 x kl. 22:59 Ant McWatt <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Jan, >> >> The link for the updated paper by Eric Preizkalns & myself is now: >> >> http://moq.robertpirsig.org/MOQTime.html >> >> >> Jan Anders said to DMB, Aug 25th 2014: >> >> I began this thread about step one, two, three, the steps of the 4 >> levels of MOQ with Anthony McWatt and Eric Priezkaln's little essay 'The >> Role of Evolution, Time and Order in Robert Pirsig's "Metaphysics of >> Quality”.' Anthony issued a revised version called "The MOQ and Time" >> recently but I can’t find it on the web just now. This little essay also >> hold some responses from RMP so I think you should have it in your >> library. >> >> >> Ant McWatt comments: >> >> I noticed in the late 1990s that (probably) the largest gap that remained >> then regarding Pirsig's metaphysical work, was any in-depth look at the >> concept of time. It meant that Pirsig, Eric (who remember is quite a >> logical positivist in his "philosophical outlook"!) and myself had to >> basically start from scratch with the topic... Anyway, Jan-Anders is >> correct; most, if not all, quotes by Pirsig in that paper are therefore >> unique to it (though it did eventually become the Appendix for the Ph.D). >> >> Either way, it's good to see this paper being used (appropriately!) as a >> starting point. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Ant >> >> >> Jan Anders said to DMB, Aug 25th 2014: >> >> ------------CUT------------ >> >> My quest is based on two points: >> >> The diagram on page 4 which shows how static patterns of quality are >> divided into four systems. The treshold, where a step into a new level >> evolves, is located at the left of each field-level. >> >> On >> page 7 RMP wrote to Ant: "The MOQ starts with the source of >> undifferentiated perception itself as the ultimate reality. The very >> first differentiation is probably ‘change’. The second one may be >> ‘before and after’. From this sense of ‘before and after’ emerge more >> complex concepts of time.” Step zero is that start. >>> >>> And from Lila of course. >> >>> I am curious about every little detail in this figure. What are the details >>> in this 4 levels. I want to know and I can see that misconceptions about >>> the levels are causing some trouble and miscomfort here and there. I think >>> it would be useful to master this little issue. A romantic prefer what it >>> is today, a classic will be more into how it works and the eternal >>> mechanisms behind. >> >>> So about my book. If you are not interested in reading it is ok for me. >>> I’ll just give a short brief about its background anyway. >>> >>> The novel is really about money and the art of losing control! But if you >>> aren’t interested in money and rather want to keep control, don’t read it. >>> Do never crack up or fall in love. Stay away from accidentual experiences >>> even if it could be of dynamic quality. I wrote that book because the story >>> sort of went up in my mind. It’s mostly fiction but I had some inspiration >>> from ZAMM and Lila. I have also a lot of inspiration from other sources >>> too. I was travelling around a lot in my car and all the pieces in the >>> jig-saw puzzle fell together eventually so it took me just one month to >>> write it down. There was a lot of yellow notes floating around in my mind >>> that had to be put in order. >> >> >> ------------CUT------------ >> >> >>> The story takes some effort to read in the beginning because my plan, the >>> structure, was to make it like a circular movement, uphill, hard and sweaty >>> until you reach the top from where the roller coaster goes down again. I’ve >>> been working on roofs of buildings for many years so I know how hard it is >>> to walk up until you can enjoy the perspective. My intention was that from >>> the top in chapter 7 and further on it mostly would be fun to read. It was >>> fun to write too. >>> >>> It’s free on Itunes bookstore, you can also buy it as paperback here: >>> https://www.createspace.com/3895126 >> >> >> ------------CUT------------ >> >> >> . >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
