[David] Second only to the MOQ you like biological things? The MOQ would say that is immoral.
[Arlo] I think the MOQ would only say this is immoral only if social and intellectual values were being subordinated to biological patterns. I am not sure we can deduce from Jan-Anders short reply that such a subordination is occurring. If Jan-Anders preference for beer and boobs was advocating alcoholism and rape, then, yeah, for sure the MOQ would have something to say about the immorality of this preference. But I don't think the MOQ makes elitist claims about what a person should "like" or "value". I mean, is it immoral to prefer punk-rock to Wagnerian opera? To enjoy hiking more than painting? Pizza more than soccer? Or soccer more than Greek drama? Also, to be fair too, you didn't actually ask what people value "second to the MOQ". [David] Anyone have anything worthwhile they value other than the MOQ itself? [Arlo] I'm guessing from your reply to Jan-Anders that your question, and your addition of the word "worthwhile" here, is not so much about what people value, but what they SHOULD value. And I'm guessing what you wanted was for people to say things like art, violin concertos, poetry, and maybe mediation and tea ceremonies. Or maybe you were looking for the big categories: love, honor, trust, etc. In any event, I have to say I agree with Jan-Anders, two things I value (besides the MOQ) are: the camaraderie of friends and the warmth of intimacy. What do I value "second to the MOQ"? Most days I'd answer "empathy". Some days, I'd consider answering "Hannah" (my daughter), but she mostly holds a second-to-nothing spot. But on a cold, snowy, winter's day like today, I admit I'd be tempted to go with winter ale and a warm embrace. (TL/DR; agape, philia, eros). Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
