Greetings,

>ROGER QUESTIONS WHY PEOPLE ARE REWRITING
>HISTORY. PERHAPS SOME MEMBERS ARE TAKING
>THE TITLE TO THIS POST LITERALLY AND MAKING
>UP THEIR OWN TRUTHS AS THEY GO ALONG

I've been pondering this one since I pretty much said the same thing, albeit prefaced 
by an apposite
observation. Perhaps an addition to the rules could be formulated making it clear that 
the behaviour
you highlight is not acceptable. This 'truth creation' has permeated a number of 
postings recently.
It is lazy and/or dishonest and really needs to stop.

Without such a rule any future transgressions directed at me will, quite rightly, 
receive the same
scathing riposte as the last - and I make no apology whatsoever for that.

MAGNUS:
PC (at least in England) means, 'politically correct,' as in not offending people's 
sensibilities  -
you may have guessed that I use the term with tongue placed firmly in cheek. (I wonder 
if that
expression travels). And I take everything with a smile on my face. Can you not see 
through me?

Self-reflection? Agreed, so here we go. Unusually for this squad I don't have a set 
metaphysical
stance simply because I haven't found one that satisfies me. I actually have a quite 
radically
different world view to the one I had this time last year. Much more coherent but much 
less precise.
Many members of this squad have helped me understand things, in one or two case in 
terms of what to
accept and in other cases in knowledge of the absurd. It is often as useful to 
understand absurdity
as truth, though the former bears less repetition. As for morality and holism; I am of 
the opinion
that morality cannot reside in either a discrete subject or a discrete object, but I 
don't see that
Pirsig's equating Quality with morality helps. Saying that morality is everything 
seems to me to be
sweeping the problem under the carpet rather than illuminating it and so my quest 
continues on more
than one front. Holism is about amalgamating those fronts together and working out 
which bits are
the back and sides. The belief that Pirsig (or any one individual) has the answer to 
life the
universe and everything seems to me to be untenable and actually quite worrying. A 
forum like this
is going to attract all sorts, from the adoring faithful to the unrepentant sceptic. I 
suppose my
position on that continuum is quite clear and it is little surprise that friction 
exists between the
two extremes. In the same way that walking into a Catholic Church and declaring that 
Mary probably
wasn't a virgin would soon find me surrounded by irate worshippers, so questioning any 
part of the
MoQ raises the same commotion here. "Cultural immune system," as Pirsig says. Such is 
life, but
there are still a lot of damn fine Catholics around.

Reflective enough? I do it all the time, but usually (and I will in future) keep it to 
myself, my
fianc�e and my, very much alive, cat.

Struan

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Struan Hellier
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"All our best activities involve desires which are disciplined and
purified in the process."
(Iris Murdoch)







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