ROGER THINKS KEVIN HAS DONE A GOOD 
JOB OF PRESENTING HIS CASE

As my title betrays, I think Kev has done an admirable job defending the 
POTENTIAL for a new level.  Many of the weaknesses we pointed out he has 
shown can be turned back as strengths. Two twists that intrigued me include 
his showing that mysticism is today a branch of intellect that is beginning 
to support the intellect, but that could at a later date (or now), begin to 
go out on directions of its own.  The second is that our arguments that 
mysticism contains all the levels is not a very convincing refutation of this 
as a level, especially when we can say the same about the intellect.

The MOQ is an evolutionary metaphysics. This means both that the universe it 
explains is evolving, and that the metaphysics describing it is evolving with 
it. I think those folks arguing that a future level is impossible are 
undermining this crucial aspect that differentiates the DQ or direct 
experience of Pirsig from the empty nihilism of Buddhism and Schoppenhauer.

Evolution is not something that is apparent at the time.......it is seen in 
retrospect.  I think Kevin has done a splendid job of arguing that mysticism 
may be a new level some day. 

Let us continue the discussion, but I wanted to give Kevin some support and 
recognition for a splendid argument.  I will put it on follow up for a 
hundred years from now, and we will see if he is right.

Rog

 


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