hello all.....just popping out of lurk mode for a moment, then will
phase back out.....i love flying dreams.  somehow, it makes perfect
sense that i can fly during the dream.  i remember (during the dream)
other dreams where i flew, but it always feels like this time, it's
real.  go figger.

Shalom

David Lind
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Jeff and Joyce Phillips wrote:

> Hi, Fred,
> 
>  Maybe if
> >Elvis has contacted me, I'd of gotten more feed back.
> 
> 
> Hey, don't be hard on yourself.  I've spoken to Elvis a lot in the last few
> years and he's not that great of a conversationalist.  But then, I'm not a
> thirteen-year-old girl either. . . .
> 
> Pirsig's ideas are at the very least generative.  In fact, this past week I
> gave a three-hour presentation/seminar to mid-level managers on some stray
> thoughts generated from "Gumptionology."  It went over like Gangbusters;
> though the talk was peppered with my own experiences and insights, the core
> was Pirsig.  So many folks today, at least some of those businessfolk I run
> into, don't "have time" to think about what they're thinking about. . . .
> 
> On Casteneda:
> 
> I tried his dream technique one night. I always liked
> >flying dreams. . .
> 
> Lucid dreaming is a fascinating study.  Like you, Fred, I have used the
> exercise often, and I have never yet been disappointed.  Also like you, I
> enjoy the flying dreams; I always find myself more rested and fully aware
> after such an escapade.  My dreams usually begin in a fertile green field
> (think Scotland or Ireland), I will start running, and finally I "slip the
> surly bonds of earth. . . " as a kite.  Weird? Perhaps, but nonetheless
real
> when it happens.
> 
> On another front, my final examination on *ZMM* is up this Thursday, with a
> dry run on Monday for two of my graduating students.  I'll be glad to post
> impressions if
>     a.) anyone's interested, and
>     2.) anything interesting surfaces.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
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