Platt - 
I would like tackle the Leuchter case on two levels.  First, on the 
intellectual.  Fred is stating an intellectual opinion, or hypothesis if you 
prefer, about the holocost.  His views are supported by his background and 
education.  First, what are his credentials?  Has he studied anthropology, 
history, engineering (i.e., the mechanics of gas chambers, etc)?  I think we 
need this information in order to assess the credibility of his claim.  I 
mean, anyone can say anything they want about the holocost.  Just because he 
went to Auschwitz and has some practical experience with death chambers, 
etc.; doesn't mean his claims are worthwhile.  And second, we must consider 
the witnesses to history.  The thousands of people who are still alive and 
tell the story of the horrors that took place.  I go out to breakfast once a 
week with a woman who actually lived through imprisonment in a Nazi 
concentration camp.  She's told me some horriffic stories, including the loss 
of her father at the Nazis' hands.  She has suffered psycologically all of 
her life because of that experience.  I submit that Mr. Leuchter can go to  
all the concentration camp site's he wants too.  How does his theory compare 
to the many survivors?  It begs the question (and I don't have a good 
answer): how does intellectual hypothesis compare against a real social 
experience in terms of "the truth?"  I can tell you my opinions on the 
matter...  this little old grandmotherly woman has memories of horrors that I 
can't even imagine - and I've tried.  My understanding of Pirsig's idea of 
quality is a continuium - from low to high.  I might argue that someone 
making an intellectual statement about a period of history has low to high 
quality depending on their credentials, experience, etc.  I'm skeptical of 
Mr. Leuchter's.  However, I believe this woman's experiences have high 
quality in that she's actually lived through the time that Mr. Leucter is 
merely hypothesizing about.  To illustrate, I can read books about war and 
come up with theories about what's it's like.  I doubt this would compare 
with talking with a veteran about their real-life experience.  So there it 
is.  I guess I'll throw it out there:  Mr. Leuchter's intellectual theories 
about "the truth" of the holocost are of low quality when contrasted against 
the physical evicence (i.e., eye-wittnesses, survivors, photographs, etc) - 
or social experience - about "the truth."  Let me know wht you think.

Jack


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