Hi Group:
A review of recent posts reveals that most of us currently participating in the
discussion are believers in a reality �out there,� independent of us. The nature
of this transcendent reality varies:
To Ken Clark it�s a �function� or �process.�
To Jonathan Marder it�s �forces.�
To David Lind it�s �too big� for us to understand.
To Matt Coughlan it�s �spiritual� or �Mu.�
Whatever it�s nature, most seem to agree with Justin Binktmons who wrote
that there is �� a distinction between Reality and the mind�s perception of
reality.�
As to the question of whether patterns also exist �out there,� there�s some
disagreement.
Matt Ketchum says, �We experience patterns of value then construct more
patterns of value to explain them.�
Peter Lennox says, �� the patterns we perceive are subjective impressions
of some other, objective reality.�
David Buchanan says, �� every sort of static quality has subjectivity AND
objectivity simultaneously.�
But at least three of us believe there is no reality (or patterns) �out there�
independent of us:
Roger says, �� reality or experience exists, but it by no means is
independent of us.�
Horse says, �We are created by reality as much as we create it.�
I say, �Mine is the only world.�
My reasoning:
Reality is experience;
There never was, is, or will be any experience other than present experience;
The only present experience I know is mine.
As yet we haven�t heard definitively from Pirsig on the subject � or so it
would seem.
Platt
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