In a message dated 8/19/00 9:09:13 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I’ve shown in previous posts that science is ultimately a faith-
>  based approach to reality.

JON:
I agree with this. Scientists ultimately must have faith in the checklist 
known as the scientific method. Many scientists don't like it when you equate 
faith in the sci-method with faith in a religious god. "Well," they say, 
"yes, it's faith, but it's not the same *kind* of faith. . ." and generally 
some uncertainty creeps into their voices at this point, because they know 
they are caught. You can't escape faith. The simple fact is, if you believe 
in something, you have faith in it. Period.

Yes, there is a difference between so-called "blind" faith and faith that is 
backed up with so-called "evidence," but you still can't escape faith. You 
must have faith in the evidence. You must have faith in the method you follow 
to determine truth.

And there seems to be a kind of schizophrenia embedded deep in the fabric of 
scientific thought. Truth is generally considered to be the ultimate goal of 
science, right? In order for something to be true it must be proven to be 
true. But if you look at the golden rules of science, you will find that 
there are NO proven facts in existence. None. Zero. In fact, science ceases 
to exist once anything is declared a 100% proven airtight end-of-story fact. 
Some may dispute this, but science rests on the fundamental foundation that 
says "there is no truth." And there never will be truth, according to 
science. 

So the goal of science is truth (or so it leads us to believe), yet by its 
own admission there will never be any proven facts. Crazy!

Jon  


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