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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 5:43
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Subject: Re: MD Re:MEMES
A little off key, sorry. :) But Roger, this isn't off the subject
at all. Not at all! What is it that keeps us all in place? It is the image we
have of who we are plus the image those around us have of us. Carlos Castaneda
called it the "tonal". There is no separation in the image between self and
not self except that which is imagined. The tonal is everything that make us
what we are; everything. All of static quality reality. If one wishes to
substitute the term meme for tonal I see no problem at all.
Hi Dan,
You are not wrong here, but I would like to add
the following,
I am maybe rightly an individualist because there
were far too few words
said to point my place as a subject. My parents
died when I was a young
boy, therefor many words which must have been
spoken out to built up my
identity, that is over baby, child, youngster,
puber, etc have been lost.
I grew up from being a puber to an adult in a
very short time.
The image which those around me have of me is not
the image I have of who
I am...there is no plus here. The images are
completely different, the image
( the feeling of identity) I have of myself is
more ' mine '.
In that respect, I believe the identity, the
image you have of yourself is some-
thing what is thrown upon you by the environment
you live in.
Your indentity is more ' moulted ' by your
education, social class, in a sense
the environment/ the others have taking away the
opportunity to create your
very own memes, your meme- space was/ is
constantly filled up with others.
( This may be, a possible angle of incidence into
the search of autism.)
To Peter, in the same respect of the discussion
here, I don 't really think
" my image of myself " is completely off
the subject of what memes are.
On the contrary, just in cases like mine, (
and autism, and Aphasia) people
have to create their own memes, the image I have
of myself is constructed
by the memes which filled in the blanks between
puber and adult.
When my parents died, memes of puberty were in an instant
wiped out by
memes of adulthood.Over night, the whole
environment wherein those memes
of puberty strived was completely
changed.
Memes of adulthood had to ' react ' quickly, not simply mutate or
transform
themselves, but fast without
precedence.
The real models, I would have if my parents would
had stayed alive, were gone.
Instead, I had to think for myself, that is
creating my own memes.
My image of myself, is what are memes are all
about !!
Many regards,
Kenneth
