[Bo]
> You may have had some epiphany (no sarcasm) but
> please let's keep science - physics preferably -
apart from
> metaphysics, I'm tired of all this new age - new
physics - that
> supposedly has bridged the mind/matter chasm, and
those who
> believe that the MOQ is more of the same.
See: SODV paper by R. Pirsig. on quantum physics
and the MoQ.
[Bo]
> But this is language that (according to intellect)
> has "clay" as a substance and "pot" as a function,
and what will we
> gain by blurring this great achievement?
You see two 'things' when I look at one 'thing'
called a clay pot.
Well, I'm involved in one event, with many
particulars happening in this one event. I'm aware
and alert, and yes I think, thus, intellectualize.
You've made the intellectual level just S/O. See what
Pirsig has to say about S/O, and the divide in SODV
paper. Also, back to dq and sq. I am a static
pattern. I have a body and mind. I'm involved with
society and inorganic patterns. I depend on the
latter for me to even exist, and all of these levels
are reality. Dq is undefined, and thus, sq is dq
defined. You come from a different paradigm, and boil
everybody down to the soil level unless we can label a
clay pot with subjects and objects. It's just a clay
pot, but anyways... my mind (intellectual level) is
different from your mind (intellectual level). For
you to erase my mind and call my mind something social
is making the world what you think it is, instead of
what the world knows it is (the world includes you,
too, you know). I'm done. We haven't changed
positions so I respectfully honor your position and
hope you would do the same.
oneness,
SA
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