Quoting Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [Platt]
> Oh? How so? When was the last time Exxon threw anybody in jail or invaded a
> country?
> 
> [Case]
> Oh yeah I forgot to mention oil tanker disasters. I thought you wanted us to
> go around invading countries isn't that how we spread liberty?

Oil tanker spills killed how many people? 

> > [Case]
> > Not at all. But the fact that you don't even know what they are says
> > something about your grip on the facts.
> 
> [Platt]
> Science and nature are not exactly copyrighted names of magazines like
> The New Yorker and the Architectural Digest.
> 
> [Case]
> Sure, whatever your say... [See comments above]

Comments above? Like relevant to the names of magazines? You lost me.

> [Platt]
> Guess you skipped the historical part and the scientists who promoted the
> idea of selective breeding. But, selective reading is to be expected when
> you don't want to know that science can do wrong.
> 
> [Case]
> Selective breeding is a good thing. It has worked on domestic animals for
> millennia. It was proposed as a good idea for humans more than a 1000 years
> ago. It was practiced badly by the aristocracy of Europe. It is not the
> science that makes eugenics bad it is the politics. It is a great idea that
> is just not workable. Why do you keep bringing this up? No one in the
> article you provided is saying anything about the science of eugenics it is
> the politics that is problematic. 

Scientists supported the politics, just as they now support the politics of 
global warming. Read what happened between the late 1800's and early 1900's in
the eugenics article in Wikipedia.

> [Platt]
> You cry over the passenger pigeon, but children dying is fodder for your
> sarcasm.  
> 
> [Case]
> If children in the third world are suffering from neglect and disease my
> guess is it is their fault for not being born into oil rich areas where US
> foreign policy gives a damn. As one on the Wacko Right how many times have
> you complained about spending tax dollars on foreign aid? Which party
> routinely wants to end family planning funding to country's that include
> abortions in their policies?
> 
> Children are dieing in the 3rd world and species are facing extinction
> because liberals have been too tolerant of the Neanderthal Right. The lack
> of healthy constructive moral outrage over stupidity is long overdo. 
> 
> Zowie that felt good! One more post like that and you will be able to hear
> me beating my chest.

I'm sure it felt good since liberals usually base their views on feelings
rather than facts. Of course, careful followers of these posts have not
overlooked the fact that you completely ignored the DDT issue and tried to
cover it up name-calling.

> [Platt]
> Yes. By all means. Let's decide facts by vote.
> 
> [Case]
> Ok, you start the thread. You can even phrase the question. Slant it anyway
> you like. I think you could be on the verge of at last bringing a true
> consensus to the MoQ.

So now consensus among contributors to this site is your criterion for
establishing facts? Well, I never. Talk about flip-flops.  

> [Platt]
> So you want to compare that to the death and destruction of wars in the last
> 100 years? Surely you just.
> 
> [Case]
> Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #34: "War is good for business,"
> 
> Who is standing in the background with their hands out for more corporate
> welfare? Boeing, McDonald-Douglas, Lockheed, General Electric, Halliburton,
> The British West Indian Company. Oh yeah and Granddaddy Prescott Bush and
> Great-Granddaddy George Herbert Walker, bankers to Hitler. Now there is an
> argument for eugenics if I ever heard one.

You forgot Hitler's pal Joe Kennedy, daddy to JFK. Which shows what relevancy
your screed as to do with the issue. When corporations declare war and/or give
the President authority to use military force, please let us know.



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