Platt and Kevin On 18 Feb. Kevin Perez wrote to Platt who had written:
> > Our concepts (intellectual patterns) can change reality. Not long > > ago the reality was that sun revolved around the earth. Then along > > came Galileo. Kevin: > Agreed. There are the realities that are our separate individual and > collective perceptions. A person and a civilization see the earth as > the center of the universe and it is so. If there is a greater reality > I suppose it depends on whether or not one realizes oneness or > separateness. I realize oneness. Kevin What Kevin agrees about is beyond me. As shown by the quotation from ZMM Pirsig made a point of reality yielding to new theories about it, Platt's about how Galileo changed our cosmological outlook is a classical example. However most people will regard this as ignorance being replaced by knowledge - intellectual expansion! Something else is a metaphysics - the absolute basic notion of reality - being replaced by another. This is no expansion of the former and has not happened since the S/O metaphysics replaced the "Aretê Metaphysics" (as described in ZMM) so we have no experience with such an upheaval, the said cosmological shift being peanuts. All we know is expansions of SOM or intellect. So now that we have a new metaphysics on our hands we have trouble understanding the enormity of it. Kevin is absolute sure that the MOQ is a "philosophy and therefore an intellectual pattern", and Platt is worried about the MOQ leaving intellect - leaving REASON - and THAT is a valid point. My comfort is that the level-struggle aspect between intellect and MOQ is a "low- high" thing, not the orter way, the MOQ will not start a crusade against its own highest static level... Why some regards the intellectual level being subordinate to the DQ/SQ reality (SOM subordinate to the MOQ) such a "lese- majesty" I don't understand. Maybe Kevin will enlighten me. Bo. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
