Bo,
The MOQ is not a dualist system. From Anthony's PhD thesis, "Not only
is the MOQ a type of 'source' monism (in which Quality is postulated
as the source of all that exists), in addition, it is monistic in the
stronger sense of postulating that reality is composed of Quality."
Marsha
At 02:57 AM 2/25/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha
>
>23 Feb. you wrote:
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> > I am not understanding. If the MOQ were a separate level, it would be
> > nondualistic. It would be a level of value events without subjects
> > and objects, without a self (I, (ego)).
>
>The MOQ is dualistic too ("oneness" leads nowhere) but it is
>infinitely better because it re-unites the subject and its world by
>making the S/O split a sub-set. Yes, it's "without subjects and
>objects" in the metaphysical (fundamental) sense, but S/O
>(intellect) is still part of its static lay-out.
>
>"Without a self". Yes, but here some distinctions must be made.
>It's not the biological self (the immune system) which is at stake
>here, nor is it the social self, but something more like Ham's
>"Essence" and/or "Consciousness", all these are S/O-intellectual
>constructs, and insisting on the MOQ being an intellectual pattern
>also demands an ego that perceives quality.
>
>But the MOQ has no such, an atom is no entity that perceives
>inorganic value, it IS inorganic value. We have no "mind-
>homunculus" inside our head that perceives intellectual value
>...etc. OK, let me not get lost here, the gist of it is that intellect's
>S/O is the toughest bonds to break.
>
> > Can you describe that Quality
> > Reality? What type of nondualistic communication would you use? How
> > would you explain it?
>
>The Quality Reality is revolution yet very simple. Compare it to
>any theory. They create(d) a new "level of understanding" and
>communicated by way of this understanding. Perhaps it may
>sound esoteric, but what field isn't to the non-initiated?
>
> > It seems if you are going to use Western-style intellect to describe
> > the MOQ as a metaphysics, than you are embedded in the Intellectual
> > Level.
>
>"Western style intellect"? Wonder what Eastern style intellect is
>like? OK I know, by this argument no level would ever emerge
>out of the former, but be forever embedded in it.
>
>IMO
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>Bo
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