On Wednesday 14 February 2007 12:26 PM MarshaV writes to All MOQers: Greetings MOQ'ers
What do you think of the current MOQ environment? What should be its purpose? What would be an improvement? m Hi MarshaV and all, I appreciate your questions! I will attempt my answer. My understanding of the current environment of MOQ is me. I am amazed how Dan projected his environment of MOQ sans life even and was alone (with quality). IMO With such a statement the current MOQ environment is sound. "All possible expressions available to the human face, from the most devilish to the most ecstatic, are produced by the interaction of these six principles, and may be analyzed with their aid. And if it be objected that the classification is arbitrary and unproven then we must emphasize once again that it-like all other indications in the present book-is given 'as a basis for observation'. Plausible or unplausible, proven or unproven all theory will remain theory for the reader until he has 'established or refuted it for himself on the basis of his own personal observation and experience.'" The Theory of Celestial Influence by Rodney Collin p 273. IMO the MOQ makes sense of value, evolution, morality in experience--quality. What is evolution/morality? How are they defined? Evolution is a lawful description of quality without defining quality. It is not creation. Morality is conceptualized according to an evolution of levels. Any action which threatens the lawful existence of a level is immoral. How I experience existence is modified by law. Proprietary awareness is not a law unto itself, but a step in the law of evolution.. IMO According to Pirsig the existence of evolution is best safeguarded by focusing on actions performed from the higher level with regard to the existence of the next lower level. This is the guide for morality. How many levels can I experience and how do I know them? IMO A law of levels will describe what individual actions mean. The intellect reveals law. Why are the levels not clearly defined? What are the levels and how are they defined? MOQ discuss. What would be an improvement (in my behavior)? In trying to observe a starting point for evolution I am struck with a question How many levels are there? What am I judged on? In my search through esoteric literature I find a law of seven modeled on the musical octave. Two intervals Mi-Fa, and Si-Do are asynchronous with the other intervals. From my experience with singing, I realize an extra effort in attention has to occur at those intervals to prevent wandering off into a different octave. I accept a law of seven as an analogue for evolution, morality, and consciousness. Do is the inorganic level of the planet. Re is man (procreation by a self-dividing cell). Mi is woman (duplication by penetration of a cell-egg wall by another cell). The first three levels are the objective thrust of mechanical force, cosmic evolution. An extra effort is necessary to move to Fa (proprietary awareness). IMO a special mixture of breathable atmosphere is the key necessary for evolution to a social level (proprietary awareness). How many hominids lived before one could write on walls to fill her emptiness. Proprietary awareness is part cosmic (objective) part conscious (subjective). Cosmic evolution for itself pushes evolution to the intellectual level the level of law. But conscious proprietary awareness has evolved. It drives and participates in the evolution of the lawgiver. Fa is the social level (proprietary awareness). Sol is the intellectual level (laws) S/O (with a nod to Bo). I am empty among many. I am responsible for myself. I experience the subjective awareness of the necessity for further movement to complete the octave. Cosmic evolution does not provide for further movement and stops at an incomplete evolution. Proprietary awareness from cosmic evolution has enough energy to move to an incomplete awareness of law, intellect. Evolution of the subject (proprietary awareness) morally continues in the individual, backward and forward. I go back and add my identity of subjective proprietary awareness to all previous levels of evolution, education. I grow up. By acting mechanically at any level evolution stops for me until I correct my mistake. St. Francis embraces the leper. A code of art, mystical experience describes the resonance between the lawful intervals of evolution. Subjective proprietary awareness, conscience, is necessary for an awareness of myself, an awareness of laws to govern my own behavior, personal responsibility. With a conscience, remembering what I do, I can finish the next two steps of the octave. La is higher social level. Si is higher intellectual level, enlightenment. Si is as far as I can evolve. I cannot become a superman. How is a leader chosen to lead a society? How can the leader impose laws on subjects? In many communities, tribes, religious orders, celebrity in a brotherhood highlights a person as leader. Other communities use a secular vote to choose a leader, one man one vote. When Moses returned to the golden calf with the engravings of the ten commandments (law), the people speculated: "We had a man to lead us, this Moses, when we came away from Egypt, but there is no saying now what has become of him." A golden calf was made to lead them back to Egypt. The calf had value since it was made of gold, but it had no consciousness of the people's needs. 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