At 12:51 PM 2/27/2007, Bo wrote: >Hi Marsha > >On 26 Feb. you wrote: > > > Subject/Object Metaphysics: reality = subject & objects > > > Metaphysics of Quality: reality = quality > > > Why don't YOU get this? > >YOU did not comment the SOM as a "quality metaphysics" point, >how this shows that it doesn't matter what reality is called, it's the >divide that counts, besides it's the DQ/SQ - not only the >reality=quality axiom - which is the MOQ.
You have not indicated the exact quote so I do not know the context to your "quality metaphysics". So I can only suggest that there is a quality tree, there is a quality rock and there is a small, black, quality poodle (Bebe). >Nobody before Pirsig spoke of any "reality" split a particular way, >the S/O chasm was self-evident. Likewise the Dynamic/Static will >become self-evident in - say - a couple of centuries ;-) Better late than never :-) > >Once more, look to the diagram page in ZMM where SOM and >MOQ are drawn. The top box says 'reality' for the former and >'quality (reality)' for the latter. The reality=quality is just a >parenthesis, it's the subsequent split that sets the two apart. The >snag is the illusion of the said top box remaining behind, it's the >box itself which is split. Bo, the MOQ wasn't even a twinkle in Pirsig's eye when ZMM was written. I don't think this is a fair comparison or support for your argument. But even in the diagram, Romantic Quality and Classic Quality are still both Quality. >I'm puzzled why oneness means so much - "dualism" seems a >swear-word - and why so few appreciate the significance of the >Dynamic/Static split compared to the S/O one. (Kevin may be the >exception) The enormous explanatory power of the MOQ rests >with the static levels. Dualism isn't a swear-word, it's proved very useful, but it's an illusion. There is only Quality. I appreciate the Dynamic/Static split. The levels are genius. The MOQ a better worldview, by far, than the Subject/Object worldview. I think that if the SOM is an enemy of the MOQ, it's because the SOM will want to divide the world, by habit, into subjects and objects. Reality = Quality, a monism, is a truer, true. Marsha moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
