Hi Marsha, Kevin, Craig --
[Marsha] > The MOQ is not a dualist system. Marsha is correct -- IF finite existence is the ONLY reality, and if existence is not a subject/object duality. > [Kevin] > As a rational system the MOQ can not possibly contain > all of reality. > Therefore, as a system, it is incomplete (a la G?del). > And therefore, with respect to reality, it is dualistic. [Craig]: > Even if 2) were correct, what is the justification for 5)? [Kevin reconstructed] > 1) The MoQ is a rational system. > 2) Reality consists of the rational & other than rational. > 3) :. The MoQ can not possibly contain all of reality. > 4) :. The MoQ is incomplete with respect to reality. > 5) Whatever is incomplete with respect to something, is dualistic > with respect to it. > 6) :. The MoQ is dualistic with respect to reality. Kevin is right -- if finite existence is non-dual and is not other than absolute reality. But existence is empirically dual and not absolute. However, according to Cusa's first principle, the primary cause (absolute reality) is non-contradictory and is therefore not other to anything derived from it. In order to claim that it is a monistic (non-dual) system, the MoQ must metaphysically demonstrate that existence is self-caused (i.e., not derived from a non-contradictory source) and not contingent upon a subject/object duality. There is no such metaphysical argument, and the MoQ does not present a logical case to disprove the self/other duality of existence. Therefore, I concur with Kevin's conclusion on both counts. The MoQ is dualistic with respect to the duality of existence and the completeness of reality. Essentially yours, Ham moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
