Kevin, inserted ... On 3/1/07, Kevin Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Ian, > > > Journey's end (enlightenment) is arriving at a place where you can see > > the journey has no end. > > Is this your experience? [IG] - Err, yes, so far, from my perspective, naturally.
> > Interesting. The dualist in me sees two journeys. But the mystic in me > sees paradox and truth. [IG] Stick with your mystic then. No truth the other way (in your own words). > > > (Reality / life is a never ending and evolving > > process of interactions, where subjects objects, means, ends, causes, > > etc are our pragmatic lingustic conveniences, etc.) > > Experience, belief or some of both? [IG] What other kind of belief is there ? Based on experiences (and intellectual and aesthetic interpretation of those, naturally) > In this description where do you see > your future...long, long term? [IG] Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. And re-enter the loop somewhere else, some other time maybe. (Like anyone hoping to make a dent in the world, I live in hope that the odd meme may live on too.) > > > The MOQ is "final" in the sense that it includes the definition of > > it's own future. It is an intellectual pattern that defines how future > > patterns may evolve. > > Do you see the MOQ as finite or infinite? I see its limits. [IG] Both. It encapsulates / seeds the whole, but is itself only a part. It includes the basis of evolving anything better than itself. What more can one ask for, apart from the idea of some absolute. > > > The part which includes the whole. > > (A beautiful, cosmological-scale Quine.) > > Life, yes. Reality, yes. Concepts, no. MOQ, no. [IG] If you see this in life and reality, then forget the MoQ and its concepts; They're just linguistic descriptions, intellectual patterns used to communicate with people who do not yet see it that way. So Kevin, you don't buy the MoQ as a useful matphysics or world-view ? Ian > > Thanks Ian. > > > Kevin > > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
