Hi Mark > Hello David M, > Dynamic Quality has no definition according to the moq. > If this is true, then DQ cannot be equated with anything, even > possibility. > In fact, if DQ has no definition, we can't talk about it at all.
DM: I understand why Pirsig talks about the undefinable, the definable repeats and is SQ. But SQ emerges, and it can appear as possible SQ before it becomes actual SQ. > > However, we do talk about DQ and there is much said in Lila regarding DQ > which rather gives the impression that DQ is being defined in very broad > terms. > For example, it is stated in Lila that DQ is always new. > One may say that DQ is experience par excellence. > > The possible is experienced > Therefore, in the sense that anything is, 'new' it may be equated with > DQ. > The, 'Possible' may be as new or immediate as anything else, so the > possible > can have an aspect of DQ. > > dmb cannot argue against this without denying DQ, for to do so would be to > argue that sq has no DQ. DM: Do you mean this error would be to say experience had no DQ? Mark: 07-03-07: Hi David M, yes. Even sq may re-enter experience; imagine an old memory you had not experienced for years? The re-entering of this memory into immediate experience enfolds it into the present and changes it and new sq patterns in the process. Best, Mark > As DQ is the essence (Robert Pirsig) of sq there can be no sq without DQ. > dmb's suggestion that the possible is not part of experience is > problematic > because we all experience possibilities as dynamic static relationships: > dreams are possibilities. That many exotic dreams cannot be realised in > inorganic, > biological, social or intellectual patterns does not make them unreal, and > to do so is to assert SOM: All dreams are as real as H2O molecules. DM: Thanks for your views. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
