At 03:40 PM 3/11/2007, you wrote: >[Marsha] >Up until now our discussion has been focused totally on Quality/DQ, >not static quality. Why the switch? > >[Arlo] >I was simply responding to your recent post that SPoVs are moral. For >me, its hard to see how "morality" derives from an "amoral" source. > >[Marsha] >Besides what is amorality? Amoral means without moral >quality. Amoral cannot be defined. It's like no-thing. > >[Arlo] >Amoral is defined as the absence of morals. By claiming DQ is amoral >you are making as much a definition as when Pirsig claims DQ to be a >"moral force". I suppose you could claim "mu", but that's different >than a statement declaring amorality. Incidentally, even claiming it >is "Dynamic" is a definition. > >To be honest with you, Marsha, I myself am not fond of the word >"moral", it is still very heavily laden with social-cultural >connotations, and is often enacted as a power-word to gain control >over others. I appreciate Pirsig was trying to rescue this word from >its popular usage, and I do agree with him that the Quality is a >moral force, but typically I prefer "value" or "betterness" (which is >how this thread began) to refer to the Quality force. (I also think >many see "morality" as the decree of pre-divined intent, that is by >saying Quality created inorganic patterns of value because it was >"moral" to do so often connotes an extra-natural being with a >pre-intent to "create". I, of course, deny this, which is why I think >we can have our cake and eat it to with regard to evolution (it is >both moral and chance.... I think I just myself up for attacks from >both Case AND Platt!))
Greetings Arlo, By amoral, I mean Dynamic Quality is not moral or immoral. But that clarification probably doesn't help much. As far as I can tell, we are right, wrong and all of the above. And I'm sure we are both open-minded and still available for a dynamic experience or two, or more. And that is what's important. Marsha moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
