Arlo, Does the word 'betterness' imply a comparative value?
Marsha At 12:34 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote: >[Marsha] >In our discussion, I do not remember you limiting the use >of 'betterness' to the two subjective levels (Social and Intellectual). > >[Arlo] >Because I don't. Where do you see me saying or implying this? > > > >At 12:12 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote: > >At 12:04 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote: > > >[Marsha] > > >What about your use of 'betterness'? It's a word you've used as an > > >equivalent of 'value'. Doesn't this 'betterness' imply a comparative > > >(subjective) value? > > > > > >[Arlo] > > >Again, this comparative state is experienced within the confines of > > >the level in question. In the moment of direct experience, an amoeba > > >experiences value (in the case of the acid, this is experience as a > > >low-quality state). In that moment, I suppose you could say the > > >amoeba becomes the "subject" and the low-quality environment the > > >"object", but again this is not to suggest the "subjectiveness" of > > >the amoeba is anything like the complex "subjectiveness" we > > >conceptualize on the social and intellectual levels. In fact, I'd > > >say the amoeba never experiences "subject/object". Having no symbolic > > >representation of "self" or "other", the amoeba is "trapped" in > > >primary, direct experience limited not only to inorganic-biological > > >value, but to pretty unsophisticated biological value as well (a > > >"wolf", for example, experiences a much more complex range of > > >biological value). > > > >Arlo, > > > >In our discussion, I do not remember you limiting the use of > >'betterness' to the two subjective levels (Social and Intellectual). > > > >m > > > > > > > > > > > >moq_discuss mailing list > >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >Archives: > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > >moq_discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
