[dmb]
Did you notice how Case had to pretend I was making an argument for a 
staircase or a ladder in order avoid this point? Why? Because staircases and

ladders also need a pre-existing enviroment and so the switch inserts the 
same mistake we find with trees. These are all flawed for the same reason 
but the concentric circles rightly suggest no such externals.

[Case]
Since you pretended I was talking about a tree I pretended you where talking
about a ladder or stairs. I should have seen you were talking about a
layered cake instead. So you draw your bulls-eye on a piece of paper and you
what have you got? Hmm, inside and outside. No externals? Right? Not.



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