Magnus, If I may take a shot at your point:
"What I don't agree with is your claim that the *only* paradigm that fits in the 4th level is the S/O paradigm. I refuse to believe that the MoQ is the first world view that doesn't use the S/O division as the primary one, and isn't that what you're claiming?" Mati: I have been thinking about is how the S/O divide provided a new basis from which reality was defined. Prior to the Aristotle's divide there is a lot of activity which looked and smelled like intellectual activity. The fact as I see it, it was intellectual activity; however I feel that this activity itself does not qualify as intellect. All this intellectual activity in itself does not have the capacity to sustain itself beyond the social level until the s/o divide occurs. Now the question is after the s/o divide does SOM itself become the primary taproot for all intellect prior to MOQ. I would suggest yes because any intellectual thought that enters the philosophical arena to test the value of its existence it is beholden to the S/O for validation. Look at any methodology textbook and any philosophical notation works it way back to s/o. The problem is that science, as a form of intellectual thought, creates problems for the validation via S/O. Today many of the sciences have all but divorced themselves from philosophy for that very reason. MOQ has Pirsig suggests in LILA, MOQ is a far more friendly philosophical paradigm in which the validation of the scientific intellectual thought can occur. Just a thought, Mati moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
